oh fuck off with the mythical legend of croydon's big apple. Thats just hatcha and blackdown creating a sth london legacy while trying to cement themselves as architects... ...how long you been into this shit for ??? not you again, you get about... got nothing better to do apart from stiring shit.....

at the risk of sounding crass... ...fuck the pre millenium d'n'b influence and the techno influence. People need to get back to the roots and make more breaks and garage style beats or we'll get swamped 81 times in halfstep wobbleclones or worse, 4 on the floor techno inspired dubstep like what scu...

^check my sig... ...and have at it then. Pick a quote any quote i've made, expand your view, counter it and lets see how ridiculously deep and skewered you can go oh by the way i think i just vomitted at your edit cos its plainly obvious you have no fucking idea how easy it is to boggle your mind wi...

if one more person says, good music is good music so shut up and go make sum, quit moaning bout the scene and be positive, just to sound like theyre some dubstep PLUR guy i'm going to vomit... ...this is the interweb and a discussion forum. without healthy debate and at the risk of being called a ha...

at the risk of sounding crass... ...fuck the pre millenium d'n'b influence and the techno influence. People need to get back to the roots and make more breaks and garage style beats or we'll get swamped 81 times in halfstep wobbleclones or worse, 4 on the floor techno inspired dubstep like what scub...

not really feeling ramadanman or martyn...

...i'll take the rufness of MRK1, oris jay, SLT mob over them anyday

of course if you throw toasty's "old" productions against martyn or ramadanman then i'd say your talkin some shit eh...

...all good tho cos i'm all about the shit talk

i'm saying its a bad thing because they(dnb heads) all tend to make halfstep further solidifying it as the lowest cloneable common denominator and thus painting dubstep into a corner it cant get out off because then to all noobs just getting into the sound they wont know that back in the day there w...

those comments i made were in response to dark halfstep supposedly being lost but i bet i could go into the dubs section and 9 out of ten would be wannabee deep halfstep wobblers. Just too fucking easy to clone, especially for jaded d'n'b heads lookin to get some easy shine... ...but if you didnt co...

OMG yessss !!!

...you can hear the breakstep influence from his early days rollin hard

exactly...innovate dont imitate

...theyre making tunes loefah wishes he'd made and it's not a good look but it sounds great and when you get slackdown hypin shit up at the expense of shit that is more worthy like boxcutter who does have a dubstep pedigree then it comes of as disingenous

for fucks sake ghosttown...

...do you really want me to dumb it down and spoonfeed it to you ???

i already said the mix was great...

...i love the consistency and sound they've appropriated but if dubstep and halfstep was the furniture then kryptic minds is the polish

fwiw i aint said shit about the interview...

^^^another younger talkin shit yeah ???

oh fuck off with the mythical legend of croydon's big apple. Thats just hatcha and blackdown creating a sth london legacy while trying to cement themselves as architects...

...how long you been into this shit for ???

^did you actually understand it ?

halfstep is formulaic... ...download the template, fill in the gaps, add a signature wobble, lush pads/strings and trick it out with some spacey pseudo spiritual vocals then continue calling yourselves kryptic minds... aint nuthin kryptic about it nor was that sound getting lost just losing its way ...

VVV - émeute

the bass, those drums, that melody...

...truly sublime. I still cant believe its from texas

i loop it and drift off to a happy place

awesome mix alright... ...hardly revolutionary or groundbreaking though. stunning production values but just seems like more jaded drum n bass heads cloning the halfstep years after the sound had been defined and by doing so, further painting dubstep into a corner as loefah himself did its like half...

very oriental in flavour...

...reminds me of moving ninja

not being an audiophile or a vinyl fetishist or a scenester, music then, has always been about groove and composition...you know good old musicianship ...its why i can still listen to shit mp3's of rare groove and funk that has absolutely no bass weight and still be blown away oh and technology. Ele...