Death of Dubstep?

drugmoney · Post by **drugmoney** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:21 pm

serious business .

q23 · Post by **q23** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:35 pm

That blog sounds like a bunch of location based chest thumping credibility issue offloading self justification to me. Dubstep was "invented" in London? - Yeah, slapping together influences from english DnB, Hip Hop (new york) Techno (detroit) and dub (jamaica).

Of course its the "yanks" that "ruined" it for everyone, hes from the UK, LOL. Lets just straight up ignore that there are just as many English producers offloading their squelchy mid range overly polished turds on crowds as there are americans.

The reality of the situation: Everyone agrees that 90% of all music in their genre is sub par, but no one agrees on which 10% is good. This is why people go to the record store, listen to 80 records, and buy 3. This concept is old as the hills - Ive seen it as far back as old disco and soul DJs. To banter that its "those producers from some other location than where I am from" who are "ruining the music" is fricken hilarious. His mutated Jamaican influenced music is somehow better than the mutated Jamaican music made on the other side of the pond, heh.

wizeguy · Post by **wizeguy** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:03 pm

i think that guy must be trying to look for shit music because i've managed to do a good job of avoiding it.

nftfhx · Post by **nftfhx** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:07 pm

This is just dumb, this is like hating a band for not playing a different genre of music
If it's what someone does, loves and succeeds at then let them call it what they like and enjoy themselves

zerbaman · Post by **zerbaman** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:27 pm

nftfhx wrote:This is just dumb, this is like hating a band for not playing a different genre of music
If it's what someone does, loves and succeeds at then let them call it what they like and enjoy themselves

It's not like that. It is that. Infact, it may be worse. By the sounds of it, this guy is hating a band of sonic frequencies

Dark Reign · Post by **Dark Reign** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:34 pm

Why is Brostep like Skrillex etc. labeled as dubstep when it has more in common with electro house? The only thing it has in common with dubstep is the bpm all the sounds are exactly the same sounds electro house and fidget producers use.

garethom · Post by **garethom** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:51 pm

Dark Reign wrote:Why is Brostep like Skrillex etc. labeled as dubstep when it has more in common with electro house? The only thing it has in common with dubstep is the bpm all the sounds are exactly the same sounds electro house and fidget producers use.

I've bought this up before, makes sense to me.

nftfhx · Post by **nftfhx** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:56 pm

zerbaman wrote:
nftfhx wrote:This is just dumb, this is like hating a band for not playing a different genre of music
If it's what someone does, loves and succeeds at then let them call it what they like and enjoy themselves
It's not like that. It is that. Infact, it may be worse. By the sounds of it, this guy is hating a band of sonic frequencies

haha, i guess you're right! how stupid"!
although, this is probably the reaction the writer was after

fractal · Post by **fractal** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:57 pm

Hilariously misinformed piece of writing, funny to read. Who is this guy anyways?

zerbaman · Post by **zerbaman** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:09 pm

garethom wrote:
Dark Reign wrote:Why is Brostep like Skrillex etc. labeled as dubstep when it has more in common with electro house? The only thing it has in common with dubstep is the bpm all the sounds are exactly the same sounds electro house and fidget producers use.
I've bought this up before, makes sense to me.

Surely, by that logic, dubstep would be deep house or techno?

fractal · Post by **fractal** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:22 pm

hmmmmm

ed teach · Post by **ed teach** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:42 pm

Man should start a weekly blog called "Muse of the World". I hear there's a gap in the market for this kind of thing now.

kaiori breathe · Post by **kaiori breathe** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:47 pm

There's a lot wrong with this article, there's also a lot wrong with people's response to it.

I didn't waste my time finding out the name of the hack who pieced together that literary garbage juice so let's just call him Douchebag Twatterson for now, or DT for short, for the sake of this post.

DT is obviously an attention whore, it's the only viable explanation for why a music journalist/critic or any sort of journalist for that matter - amateur or not - would scribble such ridiculous tripe and try to pass it off as being a piece of thought provoking writing.

For a start the article is so starved of subject matter that after the first paragraph I almost felt like I'd rather read my dick... with my hands - although this is a fairly prevalent and recurring urge when I surf the net, so I'm not sure if I can entirely claim it was because of the article. If you're going to criticize something within the musical realm, you need substance, you need research your opinion and you need evidence - whether that evidence is experiential isn't entirely important, it's being there in the first place is what matters. Otherwise you're not actually criticizing and you're not a critic and you're certainly not a music journalist, not by a long shot.

Douchebag Twatterson is such a raging boner of an attention whore that it becomes fairly obvious after paragraph 2 that he's not trying to be a critic or a music journalist, he's not trying to open a debate with good intentions and evidence and musical history, he's just being a troll. There's an art and a technical base to music criticism/journalism. Without that you're just arranging words. So with all that in mind, this is a joke, it's not even an article, it's just a collection of words.

So why are we debating what he's saying? Ultimately debating whether he's right or wrong just gives him unjust leverage to claim he's a viable music journalist or critic. Which means we'll have to read more of his ignorant opinionated garbage in future.

If we're going to debate anything it should be whether this is reflective of how easily you can pass yourself off as a music journalist when you have hands and a keyboard.

I'm going to go eat pizza and not give a shit about this article now. I recommend you all do the same.

EDIT: ...And that ladies and gentlemen is how you criticize a piece of work.

zerbaman · Post by **zerbaman** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:38 pm

In all fairness, I think the responses were aimed towards the people who actually share this viewpoint on the matter.

zonetrooper5 · Post by **zonetrooper5** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:40 pm

Brostep is dubstep whether people like it or not, accept that and move on.

ChadDub · Post by **ChadDub** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:41 pm

I feel like Dubstep is going through the same phase as metal did in the 80's, and it's stupid.

I don't really care, I love the music I'm making. When I finished my track last night my heart went jumping because I'm just so proud of what I did and what I'm doing. I love listening to Skrillex. I love listening to Silkie. I love listening to Flux Pavillion. Why can't we just all get along? Why do we always have to try to make ourselves feel better by bashing something else?

Ayatollah · Post by **Ayatollah** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:10 pm

yeah ok sure "dubstep" is dead, awesome music is alive and kicking more than ever so who cares.

Also, you can listen to a "dead" genre. A tune is a tune.

edit: also that article is utter shit.

wobbles · Post by **wobbles** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:12 pm

That writer is an asshole

DubstepCuresCancer · Post by **DubstepCuresCancer** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:19 pm

Excision and Datsik are Canadian....

ed teach · Post by **ed teach** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:23 pm

lol. blame canada!

But so is XI, and that more than makes up for it.

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