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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by SpacedMan » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:10 pm

fractal wrote:Proof that Americans are killing dubstep
Yup, we Americans will destroy dubstep one song at a time...by telling a UK producer to release a song in the UK so it can go number 1 on the UK charts. Cuz we're that smart. o7

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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by Mr Hyde » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:29 pm

SpacedMan wrote:
fractal wrote:Proof that Americans are killing dubstep
Yup, we Americans will destroy dubstep one song at a time...by telling a UK producer to release a song in the UK so it can go number 1 on the UK charts. Cuz we're that smart. o7
i guess the stereotype about americans not getting sarcasm are true then?!?

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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by SpacedMan » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:34 pm

Mr Hyde wrote:
SpacedMan wrote:
fractal wrote:Proof that Americans are killing dubstep
Yup, we Americans will destroy dubstep one song at a time...by telling a UK producer to release a song in the UK so it can go number 1 on the UK charts. Cuz we're that smart. o7
i guess the stereotype about americans not getting sarcasm are true then?!?
Well I was trying to be sarcastic, or at least ironic. But, I'm not very good at that, am I?

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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by q23 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:35 pm

dindin wrote:The trollings all good but would anyone have thought when it all started there would have ever been a tune with dubstep elements that got to number 1?
Although i only started listening in 07/08 i sure would'nt of thought so. Obviously its not too many peoples taste on here like myself but the development of the scene has been crazy.
People got RATM to xmas number 1 so i cant see why we all cant find one amazing tune which most people on dsf love and get that to number 1, give more of an education to the majority of people about the genre.
Being a card carrying member of the old fart brigade who was around to see techno break, house break, hip hop break, drum and bass break, etc, I can say with certainty that there is a ~5-10 year cycle or so from the point where the music you love is completely underground to when commercial artists start borrowing elements from the sound. Its only a matter of time before chart toppers are written with your favorite music style's influence all over it.

I can remember when drum and bass was literally underground. No one was a "junglist" as they had all come from something else, and no one else was doing anything like it. A few years later, every single hip hop track had funky drummer or winstons breaks style drums and samples from old soul funk and disco tracks over the top of that, with some dude rapping on it. It became a formula for the next 6 or 7 years.

Dubstep itself is an amalgimation of alot of other styles of music, so it doesnt surprise me that 7 or 8 years after it broke there are commercial artists whose albumes are rife with elements of that sound.

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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by Mr Hyde » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:36 pm

SpacedMan wrote:
Mr Hyde wrote:
SpacedMan wrote:
fractal wrote:Proof that Americans are killing dubstep
Yup, we Americans will destroy dubstep one song at a time...by telling a UK producer to release a song in the UK so it can go number 1 on the UK charts. Cuz we're that smart. o7
i guess the stereotype about americans not getting sarcasm are true then?!?
Well I was trying to be sarcastic, or at least ironic. But, I'm not very good at that, am I?
Damn, its a sarcasm paradox!

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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by SpacedMan » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:39 pm

Mr Hyde wrote:
SpacedMan wrote:
Mr Hyde wrote:
SpacedMan wrote:
fractal wrote:Proof that Americans are killing dubstep
Yup, we Americans will destroy dubstep one song at a time...by telling a UK producer to release a song in the UK so it can go number 1 on the UK charts. Cuz we're that smart. o7
i guess the stereotype about americans not getting sarcasm are true then?!?
Well I was trying to be sarcastic, or at least ironic. But, I'm not very good at that, am I?
Damn, its a sarcasm paradox!

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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by fractal » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:40 pm

q23 wrote:
dindin wrote:The trollings all good but would anyone have thought when it all started there would have ever been a tune with dubstep elements that got to number 1?
Although i only started listening in 07/08 i sure would'nt of thought so. Obviously its not too many peoples taste on here like myself but the development of the scene has been crazy.
People got RATM to xmas number 1 so i cant see why we all cant find one amazing tune which most people on dsf love and get that to number 1, give more of an education to the majority of people about the genre.
Being a card carrying member of the old fart brigade who was around to see techno break, house break, hip hop break, drum and bass break, etc, I can say with certainty that there is a ~5-10 year cycle or so from the point where the music you love is completely underground to when commercial artists start borrowing elements from the sound. Its only a matter of time before chart toppers are written with your favorite music style's influence all over it.

I can remember when drum and bass was literally underground. No one was a "junglist" as they had all come from something else, and no one else was doing anything like it. A few years later, every single hip hop track had funky drummer or winstons breaks style drums and samples from old soul funk and disco tracks over the top of that, with some dude rapping on it. It became a formula for the next 6 or 7 years.

Dubstep itself is an amalgimation of alot of other styles of music, so it doesnt surprise me that 7 or 8 years after it broke there are commercial artists whose albumes are rife with elements of that sound.
damn, you saw hip hop break? you might even be older than me!! 86 was that golden year huh?

also, what music isn't an amalgamation of other musics?
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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by topmo3 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:52 pm

q23 wrote:
dindin wrote:The trollings all good but would anyone have thought when it all started there would have ever been a tune with dubstep elements that got to number 1?
Although i only started listening in 07/08 i sure would'nt of thought so. Obviously its not too many peoples taste on here like myself but the development of the scene has been crazy.
People got RATM to xmas number 1 so i cant see why we all cant find one amazing tune which most people on dsf love and get that to number 1, give more of an education to the majority of people about the genre.
Being a card carrying member of the old fart brigade who was around to see techno break, house break, hip hop break, drum and bass break, etc, I can say with certainty that there is a ~5-10 year cycle or so from the point where the music you love is completely underground to when commercial artists start borrowing elements from the sound. Its only a matter of time before chart toppers are written with your favorite music style's influence all over it.

I can remember when drum and bass was literally underground. No one was a "junglist" as they had all come from something else, and no one else was doing anything like it. A few years later, every single hip hop track had funky drummer or winstons breaks style drums and samples from old soul funk and disco tracks over the top of that, with some dude rapping on it. It became a formula for the next 6 or 7 years.

Dubstep itself is an amalgimation of alot of other styles of music, so it doesnt surprise me that 7 or 8 years after it broke there are commercial artists whose albumes are rife with elements of that sound.
lots of good points and you're probably right. but just to be a pain in the arse, what do you mean by soul & funk breaks sampling in hip hop? that's like the age old classic hip hop formula, nothing to do with jungle/dnb i think :o
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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by press » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:54 pm

topmo3 wrote:
q23 wrote:
dindin wrote: what do you mean by soul & funk breaks sampling in hip hop? that's like the age old classic hip hop formula, nothing to do with jungle/dnb i think :o
jungle/dnb took sampling those breaks to new levels. chooping them speeding them pitching them. jungle especially. sampling is a staple in dnb/jungle for sure.
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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by SpacedMan » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:59 pm

If we're not careful dubstep can become the next "core", you know like "grindcore", and "deathcore". Soon we'll have "dubstep", "brostep", "wubstep" and eventually "DISESTABLISHMENTARIANISMstep". Such is the evolution of a music genre.

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Post by -[2]DAY_- » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:01 pm

... i dun think us yanks are to blame for this. could be wrong. we're just starting to process proper, less offensive halfstep over here, things are getting better.

but that... that was hilarious. tbh i thought the video was cool, but thats cuz im jealous of cool skateboarders and hot rollerskating booty shorts girls... cuz they seem to be so much better at having summer fun than I.
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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by -[2]DAY_- » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:01 pm

SpacedMan wrote:If we're not careful dubstep can become the next "core", you know like "grindcore", and "deathcore". Soon we'll have "dubstep", "brostep", "wubstep" and eventually "DISESTABLISHMENTARIANISMstep". Such is the evolution of a music genre.
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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by SpacedMan » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:04 pm

-[2]DAY_- wrote:
SpacedMan wrote:If we're not careful dubstep can become the next "core", you know like "grindcore", and "deathcore". Soon we'll have "dubstep", "brostep", "wubstep" and eventually "DISESTABLISHMENTARIANISMstep". Such is the evolution of a music genre.
stepstep is the next it thing
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Post by garethom » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:12 pm

Petsstep for all the palindrome heads! Big up! Honestly, I challenge somebody to post some "dubstep" that samples dogs/cats/etc. I reckon it can be found in under 3 minutes.

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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by Mr Hyde » Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:09 pm

garethom wrote:Petsstep for all the palindrome heads! Big up! Honestly, I challenge somebody to post some "dubstep" that samples dogs/cats/etc. I reckon it can be found in under 3 minutes.
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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by vishes » Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:54 pm

Damn this track is such a banger! Sounds seriously insane on my tv speakers!
The clip is cool as well imo, liked the chick on rollerskates.

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Post by garethom » Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:04 pm

Feeling the immense tone of dread in this track.

Just sounds like some 90's pop-trance tune with occasional KICK-GAP-SNARE halftime drums in. First time I've heard it, not the worst track ever, but another track that makes me less and less bothered about the charts.

Good music will always find its way to me anyway.

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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by Fitzaaaaaay » Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:05 pm

Could've been worse...
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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by Molzie » Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:34 pm

Fitzaaaaaay wrote:Could've been worse...
totally.

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Re: it's finally happened then.

Post by ambinate » Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:36 pm

is this that burial/four tet/yorke collab? sounding really good so far

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