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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by nowaysj » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:52 pm

Some states require inspection. Some do not. Cali does not, but requires smog checks, which is a battery of emissions tests.
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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by DRTY » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:56 pm

nowaysj wrote:Some states require inspection. Some do not. Cali does not, but requires smog checks, which is a battery of emissions tests.
whats the point of that :lol: isn't the smallest engine you can get in the US like a 10 litre

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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by kingGhost » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:16 pm

DRTY wrote:
nowaysj wrote:Some states require inspection. Some do not. Cali does not, but requires smog checks, which is a battery of emissions tests.
whats the point of that :lol: isn't the smallest engine you can get in the US like a 10 litre
oi mate, are you taking the piss? ;P

small compact cars are 1.5 liter engines or so
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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by DRTY » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:20 pm

kingGhost wrote:
DRTY wrote:
nowaysj wrote:Some states require inspection. Some do not. Cali does not, but requires smog checks, which is a battery of emissions tests.
whats the point of that :lol: isn't the smallest engine you can get in the US like a 10 litre
oi mate, are you taking the piss? ;P

small compact cars are 1.5 liter engines or so
hahhaa, yeah I was.... but exagerrating quite a bit also.

I just find it weird how your cars our different to our cars, even the same ones.....

Like here, take the VW Golf..... you can get a 1.4 Golf here. In the US, the standard Golf is a 'Rabbit' at 2.5 litres. It's about time massive engines were knocked on the head, the technology's available now.

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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by nowaysj » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:30 am

I used to drive a honda crx, it was built in '83 and got 35 mpg. That car flew too. That is going on 30 years... should be 100 mpg by now.

In terms of engine size and emissions, I don't know for sure, but I'd wager our emissions standards are way higher here in Cali.
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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by flyingointment » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:46 am

Some of us think that our 3 year old children could tell you that if corporations could not evade tax as much they might very well choose to fuck off to hong kong and live by their low tax laws. some of us think 3 year old children could tell you this might loose people their jobs.
I think this might actually be the most neo-con thing I've ever read on this site, and I've read quite a few of bass hertz's posts.

This is the kind of thinking that is holding America back (just making a general point, I know fuago is not from the US). People feel compelled to protect the richest of the rich because they think it somehow translates to job security...

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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by the acid never lies » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:22 am

svpreme wrote:
Some of us think that our 3 year old children could tell you that if corporations could not evade tax as much they might very well choose to fuck off to hong kong and live by their low tax laws. some of us think 3 year old children could tell you this might loose people their jobs.
I think this might actually be the most neo-con thing I've ever read on this site, and I've read quite a few of bass hertz's posts.

This is the kind of thinking that is holding America back (just making a general point, I know fuago is not from the US). People feel compelled to protect the richest of the rich because they think it somehow translates to job security...
Yeah, this thinking may be fine in boom time (unless you're one of the unlucky people whose job is being 'outsourced' anyway) but in a crisis especially this thinking is toxic. The thing is, the majority of people in EVERY country could do with better wages, pensions etc. If we all conspired together, we could hold the rich ransom for a change and they wouldn't have a Hong Kong or a Cayman Island left to run away to. How's that for a political project? A 3 year old might have thought of that too :4:

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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by bagelator » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:32 am

DRTY wrote:
hahhaa, yeah I was.... but exagerrating quite a bit also.
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a bit like with your original story? ;-)

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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by fuagofire » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:55 am

firky wrote:I don't think the current system is good. I think people should pay more tax. I am your worst nightmare, fella :D

As for Kilroy, he once said something very like what I quoted you saying when he was leader of Veritas.

Why did you put working class in inverted commas, btw, if you want to call them scum. Go for it.
because i think the modern idea of "working class" and 'middle class" is stupid. especially in a modern context.

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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by fuagofire » Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:43 am

svpreme wrote:
Some of us think that our 3 year old children could tell you that if corporations could not evade tax as much they might very well choose to fuck off to hong kong and live by their low tax laws. some of us think 3 year old children could tell you this might loose people their jobs.
I think this might actually be the most neo-con thing I've ever read on this site, and I've read quite a few of bass hertz's posts.

This is the kind of thinking that is holding America back (just making a general point, I know fuago is not from the US). People feel compelled to protect the richest of the rich because they think it somehow translates to job security...

no, it isn't neo-con.... I haven't suggested any good will come of military intervention .... they will fuck off(corporations), and when you have a country that doesn't think that flogging(selling) shit to foreigner's is a good thing then the UK is rather fucked. I have no problem with people insisting that the banks that are "nationalised" pay a certain amount of tax. taxing people who earn small amounts is criminal. taxing people who earn more than 40k 40% is criminal.
People seem to have forgotten who put us in this debt (if they even know about it)

taxing companies that flog shit to foreigner's - or rather not giving tax breaks to them is mad. We have no industry.....this is a bad thing.( The US has no industry....this is a bad thing)
I'm not a big fan of massive corporations however I don't think the way to combat them is tax (let the tnuc's collapse when the chance was there....2008?), I also think holding back small companies that flog things to foreigners is a massive tnuc - halts progress.
But maybe i'm wrong and we could all run everything on rainbow power, with a system of favours.

And fuck americans criticizing what I say, perhaps they should have a look at our income tax + NI, the amount we pay for fuel etc etc.

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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by fuagofire » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:05 am

the acid never lies wrote:
svpreme wrote:
Some of us think that our 3 year old children could tell you that if corporations could not evade tax as much they might very well choose to fuck off to hong kong and live by their low tax laws. some of us think 3 year old children could tell you this might loose people their jobs.
I think this might actually be the most neo-con thing I've ever read on this site, and I've read quite a few of bass hertz's posts.

This is the kind of thinking that is holding America back (just making a general point, I know fuago is not from the US). People feel compelled to protect the richest of the rich because they think it somehow translates to job security...
Yeah, this thinking may be fine in boom time (unless you're one of the unlucky people whose job is being 'outsourced' anyway) but in a crisis especially this thinking is toxic. The thing is, the majority of people in EVERY country could do with better wages, pensions etc. If we all conspired together, we could hold the rich ransom for a change and they wouldn't have a Hong Kong or a Cayman Island left to run away to. How's that for a political project? A 3 year old might have thought of that too :4:

OK What the fuck is your solution? control trade? people have been trying that for almost 100 years and they seem to allways end up in the shit, but no, i'm some sort of nutter.... marx had it right....no need for new ideas....we'll all live in mud huts.

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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by the acid never lies » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:50 am

:a: play nice

Maybe when we have established international working class solidarity we can discuss sanctions on nations who won't play nice.
For now I suggest land reform, default on the debt, nationalise the banks and put them under workers control :t:

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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by the acid never lies » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:57 am

fuagofire wrote:marx had it right....no need for new ideas....we'll all live in mud huts.
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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by Pedro Sánchez » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:45 am

the acid never lies wrote::a: play nice

Maybe when we have established international working class solidarity we can discuss sanctions on nations who won't play nice.
For now I suggest land reform, default on the debt, nationalise the banks and put them under workers control :t:
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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by the acid never lies » Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:52 pm

Pedro Sánchez wrote:
the acid never lies wrote::a: play nice

Maybe when we have established international working class solidarity we can discuss sanctions on nations who won't play nice.
For now I suggest land reform, default on the debt, nationalise the banks and put them under workers control :t:
Hi Mao :t:
:a:

China has always been capitalist, silly

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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by 64hz » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:07 pm

Your favourite Frauds?

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Re: Benefit Fraud

Post by staas » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:49 pm

mind your own business, i don't see any real evidence that she's frauding and it really is such a miniscule problem


honestly i would so ashamed of myself to snitch on some middle aged woman, holy fuck
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