£1000 fine for not registering to vote

Hibbie · Post by **Hibbie** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:56 am

Why?
I have left the register of electors form this year cause I just can't be arsed to do anything with it considering I wont be voting, I just don't see much point.
Had one of those canvassers come knocking about 30 minutes ago but they woke me up so I was like nah go away.
So is anyone else in this position?
Just seems a but mad that in a democratic society we could be fined for not registering to vote??
Also I pay council taxes so they already know who lives at this address.

DiegoSapiens · Post by **DiegoSapiens** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:02 am

What!? if you dont vote in the uk you have to pay?! Thats crazy. Such democracy

Hibbie · Post by **Hibbie** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:03 am

No you have to register to vote, the fine is for not registering

wub · Post by **wub** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:03 am

Tax the unwashed!

kidshuffle · Post by **kidshuffle** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:05 am

1000 is a bit much, but tbh im all about fining those who aren't registered. Having those laws in places has created a larger voter turnout in some countries.

scspkr99 · Post by **scspkr99** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:20 am

DiegoSapiens wrote:What!? if you dont vote in the uk you have to pay?! Thats crazy. Such democracy

That is the case in Australia and they always have boss governments

wub · Post by **wub** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:23 am

Online voting needs to happen. If they could make it a free to use hack-proof app, voter turnout would go through the roof.

Hack-proof is the trickiest bit, of course.

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:30 am

unreal

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:34 am

kidshuffle wrote:1000 is a bit much, but tbh im all about fining those who aren't registered. Having those laws in places has created a larger voter turnout in some countries.

Extorting people into voting. How moral.

How about increasing the turnout by giving more attractive options?

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:37 am

Gathering consent for illegitimate gov's.

wub · Post by **wub** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:39 am

Additional;

- If no party receives more than 50% of the public vote, the ballot is declared void and must be restocked with different candidates.

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:42 am

wub wrote:Additional;

- If no party receives more than 50% of the public vote, the ballot is declared void and must be restocked with different candidates.

Is that supposed to be better or worse? If no one receives more than 50% of the vote, people that opted for the second or third tier parties will then just vote for the top-tier parties again. Great way to keep the status quo in place.

This only increases 'strategic voting'.

Pedro Sánchez · Post by **Pedro Sánchez** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:43 am

wub wrote:Online voting needs to happen. If they could make it a free to use hack-proof app, voter turnout would go through the roof.

Hack-proof is the trickiest bit, of course.

It can never happen, it has to be done manually and overlooked by local volenteers in polling stations. Democracy in Britain is already flawed in my opinion, digital voting would bury it. Sitting there on a tablet submitting a vote after you have just read a smear campaign on the mail online would be a lot different to getting off your arse, lining up with your neighbours and locals and facing a real ballot box and that's before the whole issue of abuse it could be open to.

wub · Post by **wub** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:46 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic ... in_Estonia

It can be done.

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:47 am

Representation is necessary when communications and travel are slow. In our age, representation is becoming less necessary. More direct means of decision making need to be tried.

Hibbie · Post by **Hibbie** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:48 am

Just need some input for my original post, surely there are people on here that have not bothered with registering?

Laszlo · Post by **Laszlo** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:49 am

Is it possible to refuse to pay fines? Like, can you just say "No thanks your honour, i'll take prison time please"?

Pedro Sánchez · Post by **Pedro Sánchez** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:50 am

Hibbie wrote:Just need some input for my original post, surely there are people on here that have not bothered with registering?

Nah mate, as soon as that form come through my letterbox, it get filled in and sent back, it's just an auto money maker for the twats.

wub · Post by **wub** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:50 am

Laszlo wrote:Is it possible to refuse to pay fines? Like, can you just say "No thanks your honour, i'll take prison time please"?

"No Vietcong ever called me ******"

Laszlo · Post by **Laszlo** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:53 am

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