How many Hz is typical?

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How many Hz is typical?

Post by slowlygoingdeaf » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:35 pm

out of pure curiosity, how low is the bass consistently in dubstep? In one of the clips ive seen mala talks about having its own frequency, aside from house, dnb etc. is that the case or is it that dubstep allows the bassline more prominence, so it seems deeper/truer?

the human hearing range is generally between 20hz and 20khz, anything below 20hz you cant hear, i think you can just feel

generally its quite rare to find tracks that have bass consistently below 30hz, but has anyone ever analysed the sound and see how low it typically goes?

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Post by benjybars » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:56 pm

i was gonna ask the exact same question... 8)

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Post by autonomic » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:02 pm

my god, your cassette avatar is mesmerizing.

i think you could determine this by using the spectrum analyzer in audacity (free) or something like soundtrack pro. i'm still learning how to read the graphs though. a track like goat stare with very clean, swooping bass and little else would be good for this.

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Post by thomas » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:08 pm

I know its often too much for my speakers, thats all i know.

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Post by autonomic » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:13 pm

this looks like just the tool for the job. i think it's new...
http://www.sonicvisualiser.org/

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Post by markle » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:16 pm

You need to ask Kode9...he studies bass like a science. 8) :K:
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Post by selector.dub.u » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:34 pm

the person to ask is Jason at transition.
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Post by vonboyage » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:42 pm

selector.dub.u wrote:the person to ask is Jason at transition.
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Post by autonomic » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:09 pm

here's a spectrogram of 'swarm' by kode9. i grabbed the first .aiff i found on my hd and this wasn't the loudest or bassiest pressing, so you'd probably see more pressure coming from a track that had a whole side to itself. anyhow...

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Post by thomas » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:38 pm

So that track reaches about 26HZ

please ezcuse my ignorance, but what does this mean. If your speakers/headphones dont play this range they will distort?

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Post by tranquera » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:46 pm

I live in downtown and I could warrant anyone that the buses in the avenue below generate waves of air that can't be heard... But can be felt... That nice chest boxing... :D

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Post by selector.dub.u » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:53 pm

Thomas wrote:So that track reaches about 26HZ

please ezcuse my ignorance, but what does this mean. If your speakers/headphones dont play this range they will distort?
I am not sure about this . -edited.
However vinyl can only carry frequencies down to a certain level.
quote]How low of a frequency can LPs produce?

* The common wisdom is that they don't have much below 60hz, but there is evidence that the signal extends as low as 20hz and possibly lower on some LPs.
* Note that low bass on vinyl records will be mono, but this is not a problem because low bass is non-directional. (The reason for this is that low bass signals cause the largest groove excursions, and of course the vertical (out of phase) component of the groove must never be so great that the groove rises above the surface of the record, so the out of phase component of the low bass is removed when mastering for vinyl).
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Post by jackquinox » Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:21 am

Tell you one thing if you played these low sub ranges on the serangetti you would have elephants from miles around cropping up to the dance.
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Post by jeddere » Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:18 pm

I looked at quite a few tracks with a spectrum analyser,
think it was this one:
http://www.sumuller.de/audiotester/
free for a month or so.
You can set the x-axis to 20Hz to 200 or something..

Most tracks seemed to have a wide band from about 40 Hz to 60 Hz,
peaking at 50 Hz.

Kingstown is definitely worth a look though!

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Post by deapoh » Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:16 pm

Bengas tunes go down to 20hz. Anything lower and it can rattle your lungs so much that they bleed and you choke to death! - Thats coming from Jason Transition.
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Post by slowlygoingdeaf » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:10 pm

Deapoh wrote:Bengas tunes go down to 20hz. Anything lower and it can rattle your lungs so much that they bleed and you choke to death! - Thats coming from Jason Transition.
interesting. i take it bengas not the only one who has bass that low and thats common for dubstep producers?

i heard that bass at certain extremely low frequencies can make you lose bowel control. apparently the us military is looking into it to incapacitate crowds.

my speakers go down to 49hz and when i play ancient memories my windows shake violently. i need a sub.

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Post by kion » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:17 pm

Deapoh wrote:Bengas tunes go down to 20hz. Anything lower and it can rattle your lungs so much that they bleed and you choke to death! - Thats coming from Jason Transition.
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Post by opwolf » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:50 pm

slowlygoingdeaf wrote:
Deapoh wrote:Bengas tunes go down to 20hz. Anything lower and it can rattle your lungs so much that they bleed and you choke to death! - Thats coming from Jason Transition.
interesting. i take it bengas not the only one who has bass that low and thats common for dubstep producers?

i heard that bass at certain extremely low frequencies can make you lose bowel control. apparently the us military is looking into it to incapacitate crowds.

my speakers go down to 49hz and when i play ancient memories my windows shake violently. i need a sub.
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Post by slowlygoingdeaf » Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:43 pm

what a name - the brown note.

and with goat stare, on my system at least, it seems as if the kick has got more bass to it than the actual bassline; its really got a punch to it, like its going for your stomach.

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Post by ramadanman » Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:13 pm

basically the low notes, for example the main bass hit in the original ancient memories by digi mistikz is around 35-40 hz or somethin. the lowest bass tune i can think of is zombie jig by benga, that's hitting around 25hz and lower

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