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Stabbing burglars 'will be legal'

Post by wub » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:16 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13957587
Justice Secretary Ken Clarke has said a householder who knifes a burglar will not have committed a criminal offence under plans to clarify the law on self-defence in England.

He told the BBC people were entitled to use "whatever force necessary" to protect themselves and their homes.

David Cameron recently said the issue should be put "beyond doubt".
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Does this mean I've got carte blanche to knife anyone who turns up at my house that I don't like under the defence of "I thought he was a burglar"?

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Re: Stabbing burglars 'will be legal'

Post by badger » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:21 pm

wub wrote:Does this mean I've got carte blanche to knife anyone who turns up at my house that I don't like under the defence of "I thought he was a burglar"?
it sounds like it's a good job those randoms were round at yours before this law come into effect

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Post by wub » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:22 pm

badger wrote:
wub wrote:Does this mean I've got carte blanche to knife anyone who turns up at my house that I don't like under the defence of "I thought he was a burglar"?
it sounds like it's a good job those randoms were round at yours before this law come into effect

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Post by herbalicious » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:22 pm

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Post by Pedro Sánchez » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:23 pm

wub wrote: Does this mean I've got carte blanche to knife anyone who turns up at my house that I don't like under the defence of "I thought he was a burglar"?
If you can prove he broke into your home and you acted in pure self defense with your life or family under threat, I can't see why not, that should of always been the law.
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Post by wub » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:25 pm

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wub wrote: Does this mean I've got carte blanche to knife anyone who turns up at my house that I don't like under the defence of "I thought he was a burglar"?
If you can prove he broke into your home and you acted in pure self defense with your life or family under threat, I can't see why not, that should of always been the law.

Prove schmoove, it'll be my word against his and he'll be dead.

"I saw a man in my house whom I did not know. He advanced toward me despite my asking him to stay away. So I stabbed him 37 times in the chest. In self defence."

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Post by AntlionUK » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:27 pm

Should be interesting for people crashing house parties
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Post by wub » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:28 pm

AntlionUK wrote:Should be interesting for people crashing house parties

Why wait for them to come to you?

i'm planning to sit at home with an unregistered Pay As You Go mobile and a list of people I don't like.

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Re: Stabbing burglars 'will be legal'

Post by badger » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:30 pm

wub wrote:Prove schmoove, it'll be my word against his and he'll be dead.

"I saw a man in my house whom I did not know. He advanced toward me despite my asking him to stay away. So I stabbed him 37 times in the chest. In self defence."
i think that's the problem with this law. stabbing someone once and killing them as they approach you in a threatening manner is perfectly excusable, but beating someone to death because they've broken into your house and getting away with it isn't on imho

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Post by wub » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:30 pm

badger wrote:
wub wrote:Prove schmoove, it'll be my word against his and he'll be dead.

"I saw a man in my house whom I did not know. He advanced toward me despite my asking him to stay away. So I stabbed him 37 times in the chest. In self defence."
i think that's the problem with this law. stabbing someone once and killing them as they approach you in a threatening manner is perfectly excusable, but beating someone to death because they've broken into your house and getting away with it isn't on imho

So you're saying work on my technique and I should be okay - heart shots only, that sort of thing?

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Re: Stabbing burglars 'will be legal'

Post by badger » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:35 pm

yup that's exactly what i'm saying :lol:

had't read the article in full but it does mention this to be fair
Mr Clarke said legal protection would not extend to anyone shooting a burglar in the back when they were fleeing or "getting their friends together to beat them up".

"We all know what we mean when we say a person has an absolute right to defend themselves and their home and reasonable force.

"Nobody should prosecute and nobody should ever convict anybody who takes those steps."

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Re: Stabbing burglars 'will be legal'

Post by borrowed » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:46 pm

As if anyone gives a fuck about the law when their house is broken into

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Post by Liam92 » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:49 pm

borrowed wrote:As if anyone gives a fuck about the law when their house is broken into
The law gives a fuck though

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Post by noam » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:57 pm

any laws against inserting grenades in rectums?

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Post by slothrop » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:03 pm

noam wrote:any laws against inserting grenades in rectums?
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Post by Pedro Sánchez » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:23 pm

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Post by collige » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:36 pm

How is breaking into your house to begin with not a criminal offense with?
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Re: Stabbing burglars 'will be legal'

Post by gnome » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:43 pm

Glad my hatchet has been sharpened. There has been a spate of burglaries in my area recently. I finally get an excuse to murder someone :twisted:

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Post by slothrop » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:54 pm

collige wrote:How is breaking into your house to begin with not a criminal offense with?
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