Make an 80s synth with Massive?

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Postby BYTEME » Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:32 am

No patches please. Video titorials, pictures or written instructions.

That sort of "lubricated" slippery synth sort of sound from the 80s, with a clean and not too heavy amount of reverb or chorus.. I hear it REALLY nicely in "Silicone Lube" by Feed Me.
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Postby Sonika » Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:55 am

Are you talking about that really cheesy type of synth that one hears in some of Nero's tracks?
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Postby joshisrad » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:08 am



the pluck? comes in like 30 seconds? is that what you're talking about
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Postby BYTEME » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:11 am

No more like the slippery syth solo towards a bit after the middle of the song "Silicone Lube" by Feed Me.

I've eeb dying to try and figure it out and I've spent hours and hours trying to make it but no luck at all!
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Postby joshisrad » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:04 am

In Massive, VA-Sync. Assign changes to the sync position (for example, keytracking). Add reverse changes to the amplitude with keytracking.
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Postby Eridu » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:32 am

pitch instability, put an lfo on pitch to move around 0.00 - 0.30 and make it irregular. one of things to try...
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Postby Lucifa » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:49 am

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Postby jrisreal » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:54 pm

Vibrato, flange, chorus, slight detunage. Play some chords...didn't listen to the feedme track but this should help. Also add some saturation and quiet white noise to emulate old school hardware.
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Postby Basic A » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:02 pm

Listened to the tune.

All the synths in there bar the filth bass sounds, are just chorus saw waves, loads of phase unison, some notch filtering, and then theres one whats a square, high octave, bit of lowpass filter to take the edge off, then lots of legato and glide, reverb on it all make it feel bigger then the cheesey sound it really is...

They arent 80's sounds, their just really poor, simple leads, day 1 synthesis, you should really know what a saw sounds like, Im a bit worried about you kids....

By the 80's, the world had Autechre FFS.
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Postby tragiclifestories » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:39 pm

sounds like an albino preset to me. And more 70s prog rock than 80s (the decade of the DX7, innit). In general, you'd be better off with a decent virtual analogue than Massive, although if you must insist, then call up two saw waves, detune them, set an LFO to their pitches and modulate the LFO amount with the modwheel, and draw in a few filter sweeps, and put it through a chorus.

Really, though, you're kicking the arse out of it by not using a meat-and-potatoes subtractive synth (or Albino, which is worth having for those moments when you don't want to make a cacophonous wobble). Get a decent hardware emulation one and it'll sound better than Massive for this type of thing.
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Postby Pedro Sánchez » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:31 pm

Basic A wrote:you should really know what a saw sounds like, Im a bit worried about you kids....

saw? is it filthy like the movie, can you upload the preset for me :6:
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Postby BYTEME » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:33 am

I know what a saw wave is and I know the difference, I'd just like some good instructions on how to make the synth. Give some instructions besides "Oh it's just detuned saws, LFO and Chorus."
Some actual damn parameters would be helpful, please!

I'm pretty sure it's not Day 1 easy shit, it sounds much more wet than a regular quick saw-wave on Massive.
I don't feel like buying yo fancy smancy presets and keyboards. Just give me some parameters and numbers!!!!

Almost every question about synths is always answered the same.

Also to take note: the lower the pitch of the notes the tighter on the ends they became. Pretty sure that's not normal ol' "detuned saw waves and chorus."
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Postby Sonika » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:37 am

That's because it's better to learn by playing around.
Just following the step by step direction "turn this knob, use that wavetable with this amount of intensity" won't get you anywhere, youll just be learning how to make certain sounds.
Emulation of other artists is all fine and good, but there's a point where you should stop and try to learn for yourself
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Postby BYTEME » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:40 am

Sonika wrote:That's because it's better to learn by playing around.
Just following the step by step direction "turn this knob, use that wavetable with this amount of intensity" won't get you anywhere, youll just be learning how to make certain sounds.
Emulation of other artists is all fine and good, but there's a point where you should stop and try to learn for yourself


I tried for over 3 hours last night to try and make it. You can't learn what you WANT to learn by just turning random shit all the time. Maybe others can but I'd like to spare my time and not waste so much if my time on turning random knobs to find what it is. There's too many variations to figure this one out.
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Postby Sonika » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:42 am

Fair enough. You just may find that you will be a lot more limited when you try to compose on your own, but then again, each to his own
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Postby BYTEME » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:52 am

I don't want to learn on my own but everyone around here is different. My goal is to modernize Disco and Chiptune in a more revolutionized House and Dubstep style. Everyone around here mostly does weird super slow ambient dubstep, or shitty sample-crazy brostep. I don't want to stoop to everyone elses level but I do want to learn what they know so I can tweak it to my own.

But no one knows much apparently if all they constantly say is to turn random knobs or add whateverthefuck. And I don't want to buy peoples preset packs, their usually very crappy and are a waste of money.

And I'm not trying to be mean I'm just tired of this shit and thinking about giving up since no one can help. :/
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Postby Toolman4 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:59 am

You're a prick. Sorry bro. You will NEVER receive help from myself. You could've asked this much more nicely, and you could have avoided alienating yourself from this by not judging the hard work and time others have put in. "Stoop to their level"?....Fuck off. You may have a wonderful idea, and I honestly hope you succeed to whatever level you're trying to aim for. You did say you don't want to learn on your own though. I probably should stop typing now...

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Postby BYTEME » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:08 am

Yeah I apollogize on the "stoop to their level" part. I didn't mean it that way, I meant it in a way that: I don't want be anything like the music styles I dislike. Sure others are great at it and many people love it but I for 1 don't like certain things. Sorry for offending those styles. :/
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Postby BYTEME » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:16 am

I'm not trying to be like Feed Me, Skrillex or anyone else. Just learn and figure out how they make certain sounds I could find useful. Like right now I'm curious as to how Skrillex adds his vocal effects while singing into the microphone, and what the effects hes using for it are. (The video where he sings while 12th planet is the DJ.)
I'm also trying to find some 'old-school' synths and what makes them old and unique compared to modern synths.
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Postby Ghost of Muttley » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:19 am

Basic A wrote: Im a bit worried about you kids....

By the 80's, the world had Autechre FFS.


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