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their sketch "Deep House Dish" has intro music that sounds just like 2D.

i dunno if i'm just so uncultured i've never heard the tune he sampled that synth line from or if there just hasn't been any discussion of this tune being played.

info plz

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &plindex=9

check the last few seconds of this clip

That's the synth riff, yeah... I vaguely remember something about the riff actually being from something else before 2D too, actually. But I'm not sure.

It's an NI Reaktor preset in the Vierring or Green Matrix ensemble - can't remember which off the top of my head.

green matrix, preset called something like 'Jarre' after Jean Michel Jarre - a french pioneer of electronic music in the late 70's and 80's. i'm not sure whether the melody is directly lifted from one of his songs, but the nomenclature implies that the designer was at least inspired by Jarres music.

check out the album 'oxygène'. it's the first electronic music i ever heard when i was still a whee lil lad at grammar school. its' still pretty cool music after all these years.

Product wrote:if there just hasn't been any discussion of this tune being played.

this have been discussed already a few weeks ago. cant remember the thread though

Same riff, different tune.

Reaktor (5): BlueMatrix ensemble, snapshot #1 = Jam Jarre MS. Boost that tempo to 140, chuck a smashing snare underneath, and that's your lot until 2D is released.

man that riff got JACKED.

That is kinda dissapointing. Here I was thinking Skream was genius for making that one

Oh well it's still a TUNE.

Cue the "it doesn't matter what you rip off as long as your name is skream" crew....

abZ wrote:That is kinda dissapointing. Here I was thinking Skream was genius for making that one

Oh well it's still a TUNE.

Its no put down to Skream that he didnt create the riff

As you say

abZ wrote:it's still a TUNE

@SideSteppa - Useing a sample/effect is as common as masturbation, whats with the agro?

Jacking any sample is lame if you do nothing to it. Whether it is off 'dubstep sample CD', 'Jungle sample CD', 'this song', 'that song', this film', 'that film'.

However jacking a preset pattern on a synth is particularly weak....synths were created to CREATE sound and rather than the limitations you have with a ripped sample you can actually change settings on a synth (Attack, Decay, Sustain, Release, Pattern, Freq filter, LFO etc...) whereas a sample will always have the same sonic elements although you can effect them! To load a synth, choose a preset and say 'oooooh that sounds good i'll use that' is LAZY.....it is made especially lazy as the Jarre sample skream used is the one that opens up automatically when you load Blue Matrix!....There is not even any element of searching for the sound....it is just like 'here is a piece of software'....what synths has it got?....blue matrix....thats a good sound....lets put snare under it and call it dubstep'. LAME!

Of course it is a tune as the people who programmed the synth to sound good have a far greater degree of knowledge than skream. This is as LAME as any pop group taking a sample from an 80s disco track putting a house beat under and releasing it.....Quite simply it is lazy and shows no innovation and seeing as people like to think dubstep is about innovation this is a very reactionary thing to do...

Now cue all the 'the only people who care are bitter producers who are jealous' crew. This crew will consist of people who only rave and don't put any tiime, love or effort into making beats. The reason i care is because i lovingly craft sounds which are original and i see this as LAZY and BORING! I know it isn't skream's fault that he is labelled a genius or revolutionary when all he does is create some dub rip offs and wobble halfstep bangers...this is his sound formula but then again it is pretty LAME of him to just nick a preset....

now cue the 'but it's a tune' crew. Yeah it's alright but it probably wouldn't have got a second listen by most people if it was posted in the dubs section of this forum but having a name like Skream does quite a lot in dubstep.

SideSteppa wrote:Jacking any sample is lame if you do nothing to it. Whether it is off 'dubstep sample CD', 'Jungle sample CD', 'this song', 'that song', this film', 'that film'.

However jacking a preset pattern on a synth is particularly weak....synths were created to CREATE sound and rather than the limitations you have with a ripped sample you can actually change settings on a synth (Attack, Decay, Sustain, Release, Pattern, Freq filter, LFO etc...) whereas a sample will always have the same sonic elements although you can effect them! To load a synth, choose a preset and say 'oooooh that sounds good i'll use that' is LAZY.....it is made especially lazy as the Jarre sample skream used is the one that opens up automatically when you load Blue Matrix!....There is not even any element of searching for the sound....it is just like 'here is a piece of software'....what synths has it got?....blue matrix....thats a good sound....lets put snare under it and call it dubstep'. LAME!

Of course it is a tune as the people who programmed the synth to sound good have a far greater degree of knowledge than skream. This is as LAME as any pop group taking a sample from an 80s disco track putting a house beat under and releasing it.....Quite simply it is lazy and shows no innovation and seeing as people like to think dubstep is about innovation this is a very reactionary thing to do...

Now cue all the 'the only people who care are bitter producers who are jealous' crew. This crew will consist of people who only rave and don't put any tiime, love or effort into making beats. The reason i care is because i lovingly craft sounds which are original and i see this as LAZY and BORING! I know it isn't skream's fault that he is labelled a genius or revolutionary when all he does is create some dub rip offs and wobble halfstep bangers...this is his sound formula but then again it is pretty LAME of him to just nick a preset....

now cue the 'but it's a tune' crew. Yeah it's alright but it probably wouldn't have got a second listen by most people if it was posted in the dubs section of this forum but having a name like Skream does quite a lot in dubstep.

whatever trevor, Skreams sick

If he was more obvious about it and called it BLUE MATRIX RIP OFF or something like that, and it was dub only, that'd be fine.. it is a tune.. it just isn't really HIS tune and he should make that more obvious.

He's still sick though, Chest Boxing, Make Me etc. Tunes all of them. Just hope we don't turn up any more of these!

skream actually made the riff first

with his teeth on a piano with a toaster wired up for effects in 1963.

additional effects were added in 1965.

I don't give a damn about it, 2D is a big track an one of the good tracks recently made and I am really looking forward to the release.

When I first heard the tune, someone said that Skream was hesitant to let people hear it. I didn't understand why until I saw this thread. Still looking forward to getting my hands on this one. Ends > means.

To whoever said this wouldn't have gotten props in the dubs section... it would have been 3 or 4 pages of "320 please". Get real.

It's a bad tune either way.

I was talking to Skream after he played here in Tokyo and I said "man, 2d is genius" and he basically cut me off and said, "nah it was a preset mate"

I really don't care either way, also there is that bit after maybe the 2nd drop where it get all reverse like, thats just sick, and the way it mixes with the ridiculous snare and the bass.

That clip on the SNL vid doesn't make me snap my neck like a drunken pelican bobbing for fish after a 3 week "no seafood" diet, Skream version does...


go figure.

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