(Seriously) How would I go around making basses like datsik?

[Apex]

Alright, quick introduction:
My name is Apex, I am a dubstep producer, I have been producing for 2 years, and I want everyone who reads this to be mature about it, and don't tell me to not copy someones sound, because I'm not, if I know how to make sounds that sound like this, from that I can spring off and make my own sounds, in the entire dubstep world there is NOTHING (Full caps, I'm serious brah) in the dubstep world that I find more mother f☺cking sexy as f☺ck than Datsiks old basses, who the f☺ck needs porn when you have Datsiks old tracks, I do not want to copy his sound, I want to know the advanced processing steps that come after the massive presets, because I'm sick of people who think you can get some of the greatest sounding basses of all time using just one instance of massive and FL Studios basic f☺cking drum kit, seriously branch out.

Now before you tell me to teach myself:
I'm not here to b☺tch about how I deserve to know how to make these sounds and that I've been producing for 2 weeks and "I WNT 2 SOUND LIEK DATSIK AND SKRIKLX GIV ME MASSIVE PRESETS PLZ LOL", I've been producing for years, and honestly after experimenting with all kinds of different distortion plugins, VST's, multiple FX chains, I've made some crazy sounds, but none that gives me that eargasm you get from listening to anything by Datsik.

And before you call me a fanboy:
F☺ck you, Datsiks a f☺cking don and I can fan boy the sh☺t out of that mother f☺cker all I want,
and I'm not 12 years old, I'm 19, and all I'm looking for is links to videos or tutorials for more advanced users, or directly from you guys who I consider the experts, on your special little tips and tricks to creating the sickest sounds. I've learned more from this forum than anywhere else.

Examples:
I don't mean Datsiks new tracks like Scum, or Automatik (Even know they are SICK AS F☺CK), I mean his old stuff, allow me to link you.

I mean his older sh☺t, like;
Invaders[0:17]
Soundcloud
Boom[0:26]
Soundcloud
Jenova Project [1:00]
Soundcloud
Stand Still [0:26]
Soundcloud

Now if you could be kind enough to give me tips, or just discuss, or give examples of similair sounds you have made and how you've made them, I will give you my soul, thanks for reading!

[Crimsonghost]

I'm more interested in how you managed to get so many smilies in that wall of text.

[Crimsonghost]

Seriously though, did you check the sound design forum? Start there. I know I've seen plenty if posts on datsiks sound. You just gotta do some digging.

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You are pretty much asking to get trolled after that diatribe.

[Sinfected]

"I do not want to copy his sound, I want to know the advanced processing steps that come after the massive presets"

Honestly, reading a basic sound design guide will get you there. There is no secret advanced processing pro tip that will get you further then you are now.

"because I'm sick of people who think you can get some of the greatest sounding basses of all time using just one instance of massive and FL Studios basic f☺cking drum kit, seriously branch out."

I think what you need is to think things through. Imagine you've got it, you've made a sick "datsik" style bass or whatever in massive. Will it make your tunes better? If you've had it, you would move on to wanting to know how to make the next ones basses, its all just a mindset.

You say you are looking for tutorial links etc, but any tutorial on youtube nowadays is just "copy these massive settings", you wont actually learn anything from it. If you've produced for 2 years you should have the basics of synthesis down, so all that is left is for you to experiment. Until you get over the notion that you have to copy someones sound and branch out from to make good bass sounds, your never going to make a good original bass sound. And for gods sake, have fun doing it, or else you will get nothing but crap.

[R3b_Official]

Agreed, though i havent been producing for very long and yet to release or finish a song its basically adding every bit of detail to every signal sound. From a simple massive patch you can make a nasty snarling growl. You dont even have to use and instance of massive or fm8 you could use sounds you hear around you everyday from a car door shutting and a chainsaw. I saw a video the other day how was the movie transformers made? Cheesy right? But had some good points. The guys would take organic sounds like fire crackers and turn them into plasma blast that are crazy! There some similar sounds between a dastik song and some of the transformer movies, very metallic. But it all boils down to the same point is to change and boost every snipit of sound at your arsenal. Ive maybe made like 3 growls and damn it took me a long time to sample it and resample and then again resample AND STILL SOUNDS LIKE SHIT!. The point is too stay original and still make unique stuff. What makes Dastik so good he brought massive sounds that are never herd before but what he got to do to ge those nasty basses, growls / whatever is a mystery but thats his art work and shows it.

In the simpliest ways to make huge sounds i came to the conclusion you need lots of time and hear something over and over. So you get your nice sick massive patch and the first thing you do is you sample just that sound, nothing else. Then you through the audio of that sample in a new row or whatever and split up the frequencies. Lows,mids, highs. You EQ, compress, add fxs to each of the sounds or even take out lets say the lows and replace it completely and put a deep sub. After you get a nice rich sound bounce it again and do the same thing over and over. All it really is adding every bit of detail you can and boosting or changing it completly and thats what takes really creativity taking a lame saw wave wobble and changing into something crazy! Theres pletty of stuff on hear about this sorta thing and found a couple youtubers doing the spliting frequencys part before. Also one last thing is try the organic approach and see what you can change, i read somewhere that Datsik or someone else carrys a recorded and always records an interesting sound and bring it back to his DAW to work on. Ok thats it im done woosh i hope this newbie and some insight.

[alz]

buy an access virus

[Artie_Fufkin]

(Seriously) Nobody on this forum except datsik knows.

[ThisIsSovereign]

I'm more interested in how you managed to get so many smilies in that wall of text.

Honestly the whole time I was reading this that's all I thought.

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I love how the only serious response is also a wall of illiteracy.

Birds of a feather...

[R3b_Official]

Well sorry for trying to actually help a dude out

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Well sorry for trying to actually help a dude out

I do apologize, but trying to read that made my eyes bleed.














Seriously, it's fine, I'm just being an asshat...but really...between the run on sentences/rambling and the walls of text I couldn't really get through it.

[R3b_Official]

Its cool, i knew my grammer was pretty bad but in all honestly i surprised I passed English this year, im not the best at writing literate but know the just i guess.

[balthazarely]

use massive (some sort of digital wave table thats well layered within the synth with other osc), some bandreject that is routed into a scream/daft filter, small distortion and chorus/flanger/phase within massive. Then, eq it a bit, send it to WOW filter with the env follower on and the band reject/bandpass (maybe in vowl mode too....) and that is literally it. ive made a shit ton of sounds that sound like the old stuff. on top of the whole chain add another hi-pass/low-pass/band-pass just to give it some more open and close

[killakam98]

Ham vst

[R3b_Official]

Ham vst

Who doesnt have Ham? There going to make P.O.R.K fm one soon

[FERRA]

I found a tutorial in Reason on how to get this sort of sound, It's actually quite close to his bass sound. I've seen other tutorials that try to get this sound but this one is the best by far.

[Patchwirk]

I found a tutorial in Reason on how to get this sort of sound, It's actually quite close to his bass sound. I've seen other tutorials that try to get this sound but this one is the best by far.

m9 he ddn't evn use massiv u tnuc wat le fuk

I think that the bass could possibly be transferred over to something like Massive, but I don't see why he used Reason. My opinion. As for OP, small reverb and slow modulations are likely key here.

[KRONIKAL]

not difficult find the right patch but you need to process it ! i ve finded a patch in the loopmaster dubstep synth n° 1 or 2 that is call "cutter" i ve linked to a fx channel where i ve putted the eq , vocodex , wow and reverb and it was sounding pretty close enough...obviously u need to mess with the plugs param(mostly the vocodex) and try the best setting to get it but if u don t want to make that bass from scratch you could also do like that imo

[mthrfnk]

not difficult find the right patch but you need to process it ! i ve finded a patch in the loopmaster dubstep synth n° 1 or 2 that is call "cutter"