What is wrong with my Sub Bass?

[vertx]

Macc says overlapping freq can be good.

true story

every track is going to have overlapping frequencies...other wise the gain of each element could just be set to 0db.

Yeah, i guess the idea is don't use 48db brickwall filtering on your bass and focus more on gain levels. I've seen Macc say that usually a 12db filter will do the job.

[narrator]

can anyone recommend a good filter for cutting frequencies yet seeming natural instead of just steep slopes?? I've been using fabfilter pro Q so far but would like to have a go to one i could use..

[vertx]

fabfilter should be fine i think, i'm just using logics standard channel eq. not sure if it's true but i 've heard all digital eqs are largely the same in terms of quality.

[narrator]

Decided to use Fabfilter Pro-Q on the mid ranges and the Sonalksis SV-517 MK2 on my subs (HP at 20Hz with 18dB slope/LP at 100 with 12db slope) Clean as a whistle now.

[Kes-Es]

When I make a sub bass, I'm not thinking about what a laptop listener hears, I'm thinking about what it's going to do in a club setting. That said, you could just distort it, or lowpass a square, or basically anything mentioned in here already, will work.

OR U CUD BOOST TEH EQ ALL TEH WAY UP AT 30HZ AND FUCK THE REST OF YOUR TUNE! BASS BOOM BOOM.

[therook]

OP I just use a combination of a straight sine wave and a triangle wave one octave above that as I find this covers the extremely low frequencies and some of the just audible ones too. It also adds a few harmonics without all the phasing problems of have 2 sine waves as well. Try a Sine - Square/Saw/Triangle/Whatever and see what you like best. You could also use a bit crusher (OMG) to add a little more high end harmonics as well.

I also LP it around 120hz as well and don't compress your sub either. Just use a limiter or turn it up manually.

[Nacklewicket]

wait what
people using SQUARES for subbass??
for me sub bass is pure sine.
i use 3xosc for my subs some octaves down and 1 osc with a sine wave, it defintly does the trick

why are you people making it so complicated?

[narrator]

why do people want to split subs across the octaves?
unless it's gonna be a deep dubby kinda number then surely the upper harmonics in the octave jump are surely gonna mess about with the lower mids of another sound, well according to the key/frequency scale..

[therook]

why do people want to split subs across the octaves?
unless it's gonna be a deep dubby kinda number then surely the upper harmonics in the octave jump are surely gonna mess about with the lower mids of another sound, well according to the key/frequency scale..

I find that if the sub is in town octaves it covers more of the frequencies than if I just had one sine wave in the upper sub level. I also eq everything above 100hz to leave only that space for the sub as well.

[briskisgoodforu]

Anyone can make a regular sine sub bass.

The issue with it not sounding so hot on regular speakers is what got me experimenting with adding more harmonics to my sub lines. Looking for more suggestions along those lines.

what I like to do to ensure the bassline sounds good on a system with either no sub woofer or a shitty one, is a layer a midrange bass on tope of my sin sub. The low midrange is heavily filtered and eqed (so as to not interfere with other present frequency ranges) so that an audible bass line comes through even on shittier systems, and the sin sub is left alone.

[briskisgoodforu]

wait what
people using SQUARES for subbass??
for me sub bass is pure sine.
i use 3xosc for my subs some octaves down and 1 osc with a sine wave, it defintly does the trick

why are you people making it so complicated?

i think cuz when you have shitty speakers the sub doesnt come through so the song sonds empty without a bassline. So people are trying to make up for that with more harmonics

[narrator]

I find that if the sub is in town octaves it covers more of the frequencies than if I just had one sine wave in the upper sub level. I also eq everything above 100hz to leave only that space for the sub as well.

but isnt that the problem, that it covers more frequencies? subs for me get lo passed at 90-100Hz and the mid range starts at 120-140 which leaves a nice little gap for the punch of the kick in between from 80-120. surely another sub layer an octave above would muddle the range close to 100Hz and with the slope of an EQ it would bleed into the mid range??

i find the sine/square single oscillator in massive does the job with the wavetable set to about 7 or 8 o clock just adding a tiny bit of square

[Debaser1]

Like i said earlier, keep it fucking simple. Thick, juicy sines with limited compression, maximising, and a low cut. That's literally it, discussion over.

[narrator]

Like i said earlier, keep it fucking simple. Thick, juicy sines with limited compression, maximising, and a low cut. That's literally it, discussion over.

agreed.

[hifi]

there is so much wrong in your post.

[narrator]

in whos post??

[hifi]

in whos post??

OP's. ahah not directed to any of you

[Dreadfunk]

there is so much wrong in your post.

There is? I'll guarantee that many pro tracks have additional harmonic content on their basslines above a pure sine.

I figured out the best way for me was to add some frequency modulation using Massive's Modulation OSC. It added just the right amount of harmonics to the bass to make the sound more full and shine through on systems that couldn't hit the 30-40hz fundamental properly.

I find it funny how some people on here will hear one way to do things and think that it is gospel, and even go so far as to deride others.

[REAP3RMusic]

Hmm are you using a frequency analyzer to visualize it? I've found when im running just a pure sine that it runs from 20 Hz up to the 100Hz range, so when i roll-off my midrange at 150 ish it'll sound quite full.

What he said ^^

[benjam]

Voxengo SPAN on kick, bass , sub and master.