133 bpm for dubstep?

[Kit Fysto]

I think it really comes down to what you are making the tune for. If you're going for something Dj's are gonna play out a lot, odds are they'll sync it to whatever else its sitting next to in their set anyway. You can hate it all you want, but that's really what is gonna happen 90% of the time, at least these days.. I think the most important thing is just to do what makes you happy, cause it will reflect in the material you are releasing if you feel cornered into strict guidelines all the time.

[alphacat]

The whole idea of 133 being the "perfect" BPM has a history - where've I heard it? Larry Levan? 'Modulations' documentary?

It's an academic point at best though. Besides the excellent examples of "what about fat outta shape people tho?" - what about kids? You ever seen anybody successfully dance on time to gabber except a little kid? What about really old people? They're fucking happy to get a groove on at like 33 bpm, let alone 133. Ism schism. Fixed, explicit BPMs are a handy reference for DJ's, not anything to attempt to build a genre out of. I can probably find polka, metal, and classical that's 133 BPM. A groovy song does not cease being groovy when you pitch it up or down +/-5... it's all about the context of the mix to a large degree.

Also, if I recall right in the first place (as to the historical origin of 133 as perfect) it also had to do with the rise of cocaine use in disco dancers. Might be wrong on that one tho.

[AxeD]

Fun fact: All of Brahms' compositions are at 133 bpm.

[sigbowls]

i like 133 when I'm drunk but just chilling i like 110 the most

[chesh]

It's been done multiple time. Well, all the homies that have accomplished it sticked to 130, which in my theory is "downtempo" easy going kinda shit.

For example: lets remember that Pumped Up Kicks remix. It was slower than your typical Dubstep, but people still enjoyed it. That was classified as Dubstep. The shuffling really wasn't there it was just mostly 1 and a 2, 1 and a 2. So I've said, it's just downtempo Dubstep. They should make it a new bramch lol

[dickman69]

i like 133 when I'm drunk but just chilling i like 110 the most

[NinjaEdit]

It was the Modulations documentary. I tried it, and 128 did actually seem a bit better.

I can probably find polka, metal, and classical that's 133 BPM.

I'm not quite sure what your point is. That people don't dance to these styles? Or that they aren't defined by their tempo?

[glottis5]

Also, if I recall right in the first place (as to the historical origin of 133 as perfect) it also had to do with the rise of cocaine use in disco dancers. Might be wrong on that one tho.

I always kind of suspect this when a genre becomes really twitchy and too fast to dance to

[skerrick]

It was the Modulations documentary. I tried it, and 128 did actually seem a bit better.

I can probably find polka, metal, and classical that's 133 BPM.

I'm not quite sure what your point is. That people don't dance to these styles? Or that they aren't defined by their tempo?

Just made this at 130

http://soundcloud.com/skerrick/derpschterp

[alphacat]

It was the Modulations documentary. I tried it, and 128 did actually seem a bit better.

I can probably find polka, metal, and classical that's 133 BPM.

I'm not quite sure what your point is. That people don't dance to these styles? Or that they aren't defined by their tempo?

That they're not defined by their tempo, or rather - that their tempo is incidental and a second-order characteristic, not the foundation of a compositional style.

@Skerrick - holy shit! You just whipped that up? That's a pretty hefty choon right there...

[sigbowls]

if you want fast music 75-110 double time

i dont really dance. i listen to every bpm

[skerrick]

It was the Modulations documentary. I tried it, and 128 did actually seem a bit better.

I can probably find polka, metal, and classical that's 133 BPM.

I'm not quite sure what your point is. That people don't dance to these styles? Or that they aren't defined by their tempo?

That they're not defined by their tempo, or rather - that their tempo is incidental and a second-order characteristic, not the foundation of a compositional style.

@Skerrick - holy shit! You just whipped that up? That's a pretty hefty choon right there...

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thanks heaps man hah
yeah only took me like 3 hrs. did it after i read all this stuff all day and got home. if theres one thing this sites SUPER good for, its motivation for experimentation.

[Bassf4ce]

One of my favorite tunes, And It is somewhere around 130-135 bpm

[DaveD9664]

Just follow your heart! If it sounds good at 133, then keep it there. If it sounds like shit, then change it (x

Isn't that the best advice anyones ever given you?

[skerrick]

^ agreed. theres a loose formula but theres no set formula. experimentation is key.

[Jizz]

For example: lets remember that Pumped Up Kicks remix. It was slower than your typical Dubstep, but people still enjoyed it. That was classified as Dubstep. The shuffling really wasn't there it was just mostly 1 and a 2, 1 and a 2. So I've said, it's just downtempo Dubstep. They should make it a new bramch lol

yes, we need more Downtempo Dubstep!

[skerrick]

i didnt like pumped up kicks. too many dubstep remixes. theyre too easy to make and it completely takes away from the originality. tasteful samples beat shitty remixes. thats just imho though.