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New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by jrisreal » Tue May 17, 2011 7:18 am

saw this over at the imageline forum. I think its a great idea because I've been having the same thoughts as this guy for a while. Anyway, watch the video linked here:
http://vimeo.com/23651804

Is there any similar plugin already existing? Do you think that IL should develop this plugin?
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Re: New Plugin Idea (not mine)

Post by nowaysj » Tue May 17, 2011 7:28 am

Isn't this called dynamic eq?
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Re: New Plugin Idea (not mine)

Post by jrisreal » Tue May 17, 2011 7:34 am

nowaysj wrote:Isn't this called dynamic eq?
video calls it the dynamic frequency responder
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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by nowaysj » Tue May 17, 2011 7:47 am

Yeah, but isn't this essentially dynamic eq?
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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by jrisreal » Tue May 17, 2011 7:56 am

i feel stupid now for not knowing what that is...and google search isnt helping me out here
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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by nowaysj » Tue May 17, 2011 8:21 am

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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by 3za » Tue May 17, 2011 9:05 am

Didn't you guys watch the video???

It for stopping instruments from clashing in the mix, it's taking two old methods of this, and combining them into something that comes at a smaller cost to the mix (not your pocket). The old ways of sidechaining, and subtractive EQ, both take more than is needed away from the rogue sound that is clashing with one of the main parts of your mix, but this plugin only takes away what is needed, when it is needed. It studies the sound that is being drowned out in the mix, and then cuts just the frequences it takes up, and only when the sound is playing. In short it's a sidechain EQ.
jrisreal wrote:Is there any similar plugin already existing?
I think I might have seen something very similar come out a few years ago, but it had like a £100+ price tag. I can't remember what it was called :?

You can do something a bit like this in FL atm, but it's no way as accurate as this would be, as it don't studie the incoming audio like this. You can set a EQ on say a pad that is getting in the way of your lead synth so it cutting away frequences the lead synth wants, and then use the peak controller so that the EQ only takes effect when the lead synth plays. It's not great, but it's a work around till this comes out.
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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by RandoRando » Tue May 17, 2011 10:58 am

for some reason i feel like this isnt a new thing, or maybe its so genius i cant wrap my head around it
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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by jrisreal » Tue May 17, 2011 10:21 pm

lol if thats what youre thinking then its a completely different concept

@3za yeah man I knew that lol and yeah IL should DEFINITELY make the plugin and have it as a default FL plugin without extra cost
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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by nowaysj » Tue May 17, 2011 10:29 pm

Not so different, attenuating frequency bands based on input?
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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by jrisreal » Tue May 17, 2011 10:31 pm

nowaysj wrote:Not so different, attenuating frequency bands based on input?
but thats different from the links you posted. those eq plugs (correct me if I'm wrong) are called 'dynamic' because they don't simply boost and lower levels on the sounds, but rather take the average point in the eq curve and bring that to the center. so you can boost or lower frequencies without the sound getting louder or quieter
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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by nowaysj » Tue May 17, 2011 10:39 pm

haha, news to me, though don't totally understand what ur saying dyn eq does. Was hoping it did what I thought it did, ie reduce freq bands based upon input.
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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by jrisreal » Tue May 17, 2011 10:50 pm

basically if you try to remove some frequencies, it will boost the others to not lose volume. and the other way around too. If you boost some frequencies, the others will go down so that it doesn't get louder...ill make an image or two and edit this post to get my point across
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on the left side you see the programmed curves and on the right side, you see the curves applied to the sound
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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by nowaysj » Tue May 17, 2011 11:00 pm

ah, I got that. sounds like a good idea. Kind of a more complex tilt eq?
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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by jrisreal » Tue May 17, 2011 11:14 pm

added the image and yeah, noways...kinda like that
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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by nowaysj » Tue May 17, 2011 11:27 pm

haha, maybe I'm thinking of Sonalksis's DQ1 and CQ1.

For the time being, I'm sticking with quality arrangement, composition, eq and sound design. hehe.
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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by hasezwei » Tue May 17, 2011 11:51 pm

so it's a multiband sidechain compressor that works both ways (the multibandedness)...
i dont think this is a great idea, it's gonna make people pack even more stuff into their mixes and give them new ways to milk out the last single dB, i thought we all agreed that the loudness war is shit?

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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by jrisreal » Tue May 17, 2011 11:55 pm

@hasezwei not what its intended for...or what I would use it for either. Its main purpose is to mix vocals into instrumentals without ruining or compromising the instrumental. the sine lead in the video was used to show the concept

and the guy who made it said that it would have hundreds/thousands of bands, so it wouldn't be your average multiband sidechain compressor
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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by hifi » Wed May 18, 2011 3:08 am

jrisreal wrote:saw this over at the imageline forum.
how many other forums are you registered at? are you cheating on dsf?

jokes. but damn jrisreal you are stacking up in knowledge man you seem to learn something new everyday well it doesn't really surprise me since your always on here! not in a bad way but keep it up this also looks interesting -q-

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Re: New Plugin Idea | Dynamic Frequency Responder (not mine)

Post by jrisreal » Wed May 18, 2011 3:17 am

Hypefiend wrote:
jrisreal wrote:saw this over at the imageline forum.
how many other forums are you registered at? are you cheating on dsf?

jokes. but damn jrisreal you are stacking up in knowledge man you seem to learn something new everyday well it doesn't really surprise me since your always on here! not in a bad way but keep it up this also looks interesting -q-
thanks? lol imageline forum is really slow so Im not on there much...maybe one post every half hour or so (and that includes all subforums together)
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