Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

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Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by wub » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:20 am

Having looked over the feedback regarding the previous Help Me Make That Sound thread as being too large and unwieldy, am trialling a monthly alternative to it for the month of August. This is a one month trial, so bear with me here, and will have a feedback poll once the month is over to see if it's working.

As before;

Post examples (using the Video tag if you want to embed YouTube videos) of what sound you want to make - if your question is answered please try (if you can) to help someone back. If you can't help someone back please contribute somewhere within the forum.

We also have the following threads that might help up front;

Moneyshot thread (Mastering/Mixdown) - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=74832
Resampling - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 4#p2206342
Bass - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 6#p2204163
Sidechaining - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=209347
How To Sound Like Skrillex & Make Skrillex Bass - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=198681
Sound Design // FM Synthesis // Foley // Field Recording - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=199401


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Post by rafaelrafael » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:43 am



Hey, hopefully someone can help me with this. Trying to get the synth stabs at the beginning and the Pulse X-ish bass going on.

Thanks!

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by axolotl-dubstep » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:07 pm

The bass wobble at 1.23mins in, thanks for any help in advance


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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by wub » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:15 pm

axolotl-dubstep wrote:The bass wobble at 1.23mins in, thanks for any help in advance


Sounds like two sounds overlayed on each other. Standard sine wave with an LFO on it for the wob wob wob, then a higher pitched screech on top to give it the counterpoint. You might get something similar with Massive > Modern Talking waveform, and maybe messing with the filters to give it an opening/closing sound.

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by wub » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:16 pm

rafaelrafael wrote:

Hey, hopefully someone can help me with this. Trying to get the synth stabs at the beginning and the Pulse X-ish bass going on.

Thanks!
Not sure what synth stabs you mean, I couldn't hear any at the beginning? Pulsing bass sounds like a low pitched 808 bass, with some resonance on it and a slight adjustment on the ADSR envelope to give it a longer attack so that it brings itself in slightly after the beat.

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by axolotl-dubstep » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:30 pm

wub wrote:
axolotl-dubstep wrote:The bass wobble at 1.23mins in, thanks for any help in advance


Sounds like two sounds overlayed on each other. Standard sine wave with an LFO on it for the wob wob wob, then a higher pitched screech on top to give it the counterpoint. You might get something similar with Massive > Modern Talking waveform, and maybe messing with the filters to give it an opening/closing sound.

Thank you man, really appreciate that. Will experiment tomorrow, thanks again! Have a brill day! :D

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by Bubba J » Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:58 pm

I've been all over the internet looking on how to get a synth like in Porter Robinson's The wildcat.

Its the main bass synth at the drop.



I've been stumped on this sound for months. its used in alot of songs and im pulling my hair out trying to figure it out.

any help with this is much appreciated

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by dubesteppe » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:52 pm

Bubba J wrote:I've been all over the internet looking on how to get a synth like in Porter Robinson's The wildcat.

Its the main bass synth at the drop.



I've been stumped on this sound for months. its used in alot of songs and im pulling my hair out trying to figure it out.

any help with this is much appreciated
i cant tell which one you are talking about. If you are talking about the growl, its not very impressive as far as growls go. Sounds like a square wave at -24 then a low pass filter and bitcrushed
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Question about Drop from Downlink - Gamma Ray Burst

Post by Donald Dub » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:57 pm

I really like the sound Downlink uses at the drop (0:57) of Gamma Ray Burst but I'm at a loss at how to create a sound like that. It seems to be some kind of reversed audio clip but aside from that I'm not sure where to begin. He plays it repeatedly at (3:44 - 3:47) if that helps.

Does anyone know how to get started making a sound like that? I use Ableton Live with NI Massive and FM8. Thanks guys. Here's the YouTube vid:


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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by dubesteppe » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:57 pm

can some one help me make the video game, square wave sounding thing in Soundcloud
id also like to know how he gets it to shuffle like that. Im guessing it midi notes going up and down but idk
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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by Andywounds » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:07 pm

just started with massive, could get ok sounds in reason, well good enough for me for what I want to do, that being a lover of music and like trying it all.

got some automation tweaks in reason and I think I started to get close to what Im trying to do, now im trying to replicate it in massive.

the sound im hoping to figure out, its probably simple stuff, ive searched on here alot, believe me, hours, but the thing is I dont know what it is that its called, or what it is that causes the sound to search for tips on the synth, if its the synth doing it.

its used everywhere, I think you guys have explained it im sure, but because I dont know how to describe it its hard to read about it from the tutorial threads.
one example of the 'sound' would be 16Bits remix of Boregores Icecream at :42 then at about ;44. first bit is what i thought was just LFO rate on a slope down, not a step just gradual slope, with like a filter changing at the same time as the LFO.

I tried doin this, having a slope LFO and adding chorus or phaser and having the rate and size synced with the LFO slope, it started to kinda make a rewinding kinda sound, so i threw on more, changed the filters etc. to be in time with the slope but it isnt quite there but i can definetly hear it starting to kinda phaze and morph how Id like it to. I read andf watched loads on youtube, everything from basics to that really well done 13 part massive tut, even the transformer guy one. I THINK im on the right track, but if someone would just give me a little bit more of a nudge towards where im going wrong id really appreciate it.

Actually, to the first person who helps me out with something i can really use, not a sarcastic answer about how boregore is like pop punk for Hardcore, or skitz mix is for Dance. something really helpful. ill send you, a free LP, LTD clear versions, of my real bands S/T LP. http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... =1&theater

cheers and thanks. hopefully its easy an someone gets free shit cos i have no money

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Re: Question about Drop from Downlink - Gamma Ray Burst

Post by Teknicyde » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:47 pm

Donald Dub wrote:I really like the sound Downlink uses at the drop (0:57) of Gamma Ray Burst but I'm at a loss at how to create a sound like that. It seems to be some kind of reversed audio clip but aside from that I'm not sure where to begin. He plays it repeatedly at (3:44 - 3:47) if that helps.

Does anyone know how to get started making a sound like that? I use Ableton Live with NI Massive and FM8. Thanks guys. Here's the YouTube vid:

Its a resampled synth... Downlink makes really, really awesome patches then resamples them to arrange them. When im saying resampling here, i dont mean piling a bunch of effects on, I just mean rendering to audio to cut it up, alot of people around here have a sorta skewed definiton of resampling...

Automate a comb filter's frequency, its what gives it that pitch-bendy-reverse-sample-ish quality about it...

Very subtle detuning or frequency shift on parralel... What gives it that morphing reese quality.

Notch filter, sweep the cutoff, its what gives it that transformery feel, and helps add to the morphing of the detuning.

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by axolotl-dubstep » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:37 am

I've been thinking about this sound for a while now. It sounds kind of like a flute with some advanced modulation. But then again it has that classic synth feel to it. :e: :e: :)

It comes in at 28secs in, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cxgao2rYZw

Any ideas, thank you :e:

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by axolotl-dubstep » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:49 am

Forgive me if I'm asking too many questions, but how do I create modulation like this www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MBa6MIlXk8

When it drops, it has so much movement, it sweeps and flows really well. Can someone fill me in on how this is constructed?

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by Lectric » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:20 am


the growl bass at the drop. i use massive. all help is appreciated <3
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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by Bubba J » Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:16 am

dubesteppe wrote:
Bubba J wrote:I've been all over the internet looking on how to get a synth like in Porter Robinson's The wildcat.

Its the main bass synth at the drop.



I've been stumped on this sound for months. its used in alot of songs and im pulling my hair out trying to figure it out.

any help with this is much appreciated
i cant tell which one you are talking about. If you are talking about the growl, its not very impressive as far as growls go. Sounds like a square wave at -24 then a low pass filter and bitcrushed

not that noise the main heavy sounding synth playing the melody

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by jrisreal » Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:30 am

@axolotl-dubstep dont know whatcha mean in the first question, i dont hear any flute-type sounds. but in your second question, thats an upward ramp wobble with a decent amount of resonance.

@lectric sounds like layered saws of different octaves. probably needs a lot of experimentation.
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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by .onelove. » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:20 am

Trying to emulate this nice, warm minimal bass that comes in at 0:54 ;




I'm thinking, just a low-passed saw thats filter opens slightly as it progresses. However I can't get the warmth, any little touches I could add?

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by halcyon » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:37 pm

Can anyone explain how to create a nice sub bass ... In a track I'm currently working on, it's nice on my main sound system, but pretty much non-existant on any other sound system I try it on.

What I currently have is: 2 oscillators (A & B). both are pure sine waves and oscillator B is transposed by +12semitones compared to osc A.
Don't have any EQ'ing, filtering, compressing going on ... should I?


For reference, I'm particularly fond of the sub bass in Roksonix - 2 Bad



Any tips on how to accomplish something like that?

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - August 2011

Post by xrylex » Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:44 pm

Bubba J wrote:I've been all over the internet looking on how to get a synth like in Porter Robinson's The wildcat.

Its the main bass synth at the drop.



I've been stumped on this sound for months. its used in alot of songs and im pulling my hair out trying to figure it out.

any help with this is much appreciated
its a pretty standard sound, read the how to sound like skrillex thread and the bass thread.
massive + bit crusher + formant filter.

couple of vids for you to check out:




also check out the rest of the tutorials on that channel. Ryan is doing the same sound (complextro) that porter is...

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