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Mastering question?

Post by moki » Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:50 am

Hey i'm looking to buy some software to help me with mastering, so far i'm thinkin about ozone 4 or psp vintage warmer! what would you peoples recommend??

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Post by Brisance » Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:57 am

Macc

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Post by moki » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:13 am

Well as a pre macc thing for if i'm say showing songs to friends and stuff.

when I get more serious i'll send tracks to macc.

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Post by lowpass » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:20 am

I started using the ozone lately, really good if it is a quick fix your after, comes with loada presets which is handy too

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Post by moki » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:38 am

Nice! I'm lookin on the website. Looks slick as fuck.

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Post by macc » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:07 am

LOL @ suggesting me as software :lol:

Anyway, Ozone 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PSP VW.

I wouldn't put VW anywhere near a master channel. Great for smashing drums, but er... that's it.

Presets in mastering = no.
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Post by Brisance » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:25 am

Macc wrote: Great for smashing drums
If you want them to be delayed half a beat or so. VW has horrible latency(at least the demo)

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Post by lowpass » Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:10 am

Macc wrote:LOL @ suggesting me as software :lol:

Anyway, Ozone 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PSP VW.

I wouldn't put VW anywhere near a master channel. Great for smashing drums, but er... that's it.

Presets in mastering = no.

I agree about the presets but if he is just using it to sparkle it up a little to show his mates then its not too bad. Looking at it this way if you have no mastering experience but you know the track sounds a little dull and too quiet theres a preset to excite and boost volume (I know not too technical) but if you dont know what your doing then it can help just to scroll through these while your playing and see which one sounds best

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Post by macc » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:10 pm

Brisance wrote:
Macc wrote: Great for smashing drums
If you want them to be delayed half a beat or so. VW has horrible latency(at least the demo)
What sequencer are you using - doesn't it have automatic PDC? Are you using Logic Caveman Edition or something? :6: ;)

I agree with you to an extent Lowpass btw, but (as I am sure you know :) ) something slightly/much louder will virtually always be deemed to sound better. That's where the danger lies - if a preset makes it louder then great, sold, bang done. But at matched levels, that preset might not sound so good after all ;)
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Post by Brisance » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:53 pm

FL 8, I remember trying the demo, adding it to a snare to phatten it and wondering, why my snares seemed to be shifted.

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Post by martello » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:56 pm

So, PSP VW is an excellent swing plugin :6:

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Post by george lenton » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:20 pm

how do, @ macc, so your actually a mastering engineer, ? (the awe.... ha ha)

ive heard of a few people using vintage warmer to 'warm' their tracks up and that, it's not good though, ? it was actually something i wanted to try, maybe not so keen now.

i have to do my own mastering, but im always curious as what one of my tracks would sound like masterd by a proper person. what gear do you use for your mastering, ? hardware eq's and compressor's, ?

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Post by serox » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:30 pm

Can I just clear something up before I go away and make a mess of everything for a few months.

VM is ok on drums but nothing else?

I have got it but I dont understand exactly what I am doing with it so dont use it.
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Post by FSTZ1 » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:38 pm

do they make the macc plugin for powercore???

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Post by macc » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:01 pm

I'm available as native VST, complete with condescending sarcasm and patronisation as standard.

One hell of a GUI though :6:
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Post by macc » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:07 pm

George Lenton wrote:how do, @ macc, so your actually a mastering engineer, ? (the awe.... ha ha)
I'm not one of the big boys, but I make most of my living mastering these days, yes.
ive heard of a few people using vintage warmer to 'warm' their tracks up and that, it's not good though, ? it was actually something i wanted to try, maybe not so keen now.
Try it for yourself! It's not going to leave you with scars or anything :6: Don't take my word for itt, you might love it. Personally I find it fuzzy, a bit mushy and better as an 'effect' compressor than anything else.

Personally if someone tells me they are sending a mix with a bit of VW on it I ask for one without as well. In all the cases I can think of I have used the non-VW. Largely because the controls have such a huge range, it's very easy to overcook.

Bear in mind I ain't used it since just after VW2 came out. Too much other stuff to try out :D
have to do my own mastering, but im always curious as what one of my tracks would sound like masterd by a proper person. what gear do you use for your mastering, ? hardware eq's and compressor's, ?
All that bollix, yes. Or not, if it doesn't need it.
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Post by macc » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:08 pm

Depone wrote: I dunno, i was just about to buy the UAD-1 Bob Macc Edition. Plenty of presets in there too!
Overrated. The original hardware is much better.

I passed 30 the other week... does that make me vintage? :lol:
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Post by deadly_habit » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:31 pm

Macc wrote:
Depone wrote: I dunno, i was just about to buy the UAD-1 Bob Macc Edition. Plenty of presets in there too!
Overrated. The original hardware is much better.

I passed 30 the other week... does that make me vintage? :lol:
might be hard to find replacement parts if anything breaks

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Post by macc » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:32 pm

That made my eyes water.
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