That "Flying Lotus" sound

devnull · Post by **devnull** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:46 pm

Hey guys

Anyone got any idea how to make that "flying lotus" sound....not really sure how to describe it, but you know when you hear it. Kind of like a cd skipping and playing the sound backwards at the same time. Couple of other people do similar (i.e.: prefuse 73 or lukid)

I have tried experiments, but can never seem to quite get it.

Cheers

- devnull

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:46 pm

i know this has nothing to do with the post but are you the same devnull who did necrobestial sadobreaks?

devnull · Post by **devnull** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:21 pm

Nope, just a guy who is new to producing

magma · Post by **magma** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:23 pm

(I figured he was just a fan)

But if it really is Dev/Null then I'm still cleaning the pair of pants I wore to Bangface the other month. FUCKING FILTH!!

Edit: Never mind. Still, you have great taste in nicknames!

Flying Lotus is a beautiful mystery to me... I've tried, I've failed, I've given up and then I've tried again.... just can't get it right. It always seems like his quantise is morphing or something... sometimes things hit too late, sometimes too early, so it just sounds 'loose'... as much as anything I think it's probably just clever programming.... Burial's beats always sound "perfectly out of time" too and he does them all by hand....?

TBH, I don't think there are many easy ways to match FlyLo... you've just got to be a fucking genius.

Which I'm not, but hopefully you are!

levitate · Post by **levitate** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:45 pm

Both Flylo and Prefuse are MPC men - quite old school programming. There's a lot of compression and eqing going on...

just found this, might be of use - haven't watched it yet though as im in a library - http://www.cratekings.com/flying-lotus- ... echniques/

azair · Post by **azair** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:57 pm

Burial's beats always sound "perfectly out of time"

It's a very nice way to describe it.

azair · Post by **azair** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:00 pm

Burial's beats always sound "perfectly out of time"

It's a very nice way to describe it.

magma · Post by **magma** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:12 pm

levitate wrote:Both Flylo and Prefuse are MPC men - quite old school programming. There's a lot of compression and eqing going on...

Yeah, makes sense. A lot of those producers (especially Fly Lo) come out of the Hip Hop scene, so it follows that they'd use traditionally Hip Hop tools to achieve it.

MPCs are still fucking awesome.

teqh · Post by **teqh** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:40 pm

try using nice floaty synths and just jam with a drum pad or something, flying lotus has been building up his style since day 1 so emulating it is going to take some time!

dizz1 · Post by **dizz1** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:45 pm

Flylo uses reason and ableton live.
Also if you want that off the grid sound try playing with quantise off and just take the best bits.
Also move shit randomly off the grid if you dont have a midi controller (I find the midi way easier to get a groove though)
Holla

r · Post by r » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:59 pm

multiple sidechains

devnull · Post by **devnull** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:54 am

The vocals on Tea Leaf Dancers has an amazing pulsing effect. Sounds like a side chain with a really long slow release, with the compressor triggered at the start of each line, causing the vocal to duck, and slowly return to full volume as the line continues.

scooterjack · Post by **scooterjack** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:49 am

devnull wrote:The vocals on Tea Leaf Dancers has an amazing pulsing effect. Sounds like a side chain with a really long slow release, with the compressor triggered at the start of each line, causing the vocal to duck, and slowly return to full volume as the line continues.

More than likely, it's just a long attack in the ASDR settings on the sampler for each sample(line).

bugsle · Post by **bugsle** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:31 am

IMHO Tea Leaf dancers is highly gated/compressed, so vocs are also...

FlyLo`s sound is about dreaming, not that about dancing. Everything have weirde freqs, etc..

serox · Post by **serox** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:26 am

Wtf are some of you on about?

His tunes sound like he is just jamming with a controller/pads with quantize turned off for some drums.

No need to get all technical about.

thecatinside · Post by **thecatinside** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:49 am

levitate wrote:Both Flylo and Prefuse are MPC men - quite old school programming. There's a lot of compression and eqing going on...

just found this, might be of use - haven't watched it yet though as im in a library - http://www.cratekings.com/flying-lotus- ... echniques/

According to the man him self, his given up mpc and now uses ableton and trigger finger.

Now I may need to sell my MPC too

bugsle · Post by **bugsle** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:17 pm

Make your music. Just be inspired, do not steal concept/sound(you know what i mean).

daft cunt · Post by **daft cunt** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:19 pm

Bugsle wrote:Make your music. Just be inspired, do not steal concept/sound(you know what i mean).

Bullshit! Just keep copying!
Music is all about ego and fame.

magma · Post by **magma** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:44 pm

Bugsle wrote:Make your music. Just be inspired, do not steal concept/sound(you know what i mean).

Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with learning from and being inspired by others... that's why we have "genres" and not just a 2 billion unrelated musicians.

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