Pitchfork: D1, Beezy, Cyrus, Bashy and Wiley

[blackdown]

New Pitchfork column for Feb. Link on my blog...

[ryan17]

good read

[Rob H]

nice to see that info on the cyrus album

[shonky]

That Beezy mixtape sounds intriguing will download when I finish work. Cheers Martin, good read as ever

[daf]

Good read! The Beezy link has expired, though

[blackdown]

Good read! The Beezy link has expired, though

have emailed pitchfork to amend to the Get Darker link.

[metalboxproducts]

Very engaging read. Cheer.

[threnody]

Good column as always. Enjoyed it!

[boomnoise]

Especially liked the point about DJs having to craft their own sound. The emergence of solid producer led dj sets is vital. But the opportunities for these DJs to play out still need to be created, their talents showcased on a big system. Red Star is excellent for this imho.

Also interesting with regards to this is the possibility of producers doing Ableton Live sets. Elemental has been pioneering this and i would like to see more, especially from the talent on this forum.

Not that i'm advocating or predicting a move away from dubplate culture but i totally agree that now new DJs have to really differentiate themselves, have a key point of difference. We're passed the stage where people just want to hear the last anthems week in week out. Dubstep needs to be presented as the sonically varied creature it is. But internet radio / downloads can only provide this function to a limited degree.

I don't think that the exclusive producer-dj relationship can last for very much longer at all. Given, as you say, how the sound is being propagated. I think this has defined Youngsta's sound but it has also introduced some problems in terms of lack of variety, predictability etc.

Thinking in terms of gatekeepers, sound shapers etc is very interesting. The dubstep power base still remains with a select few but really given where dubstep is at now new producers need to harness and create opportunities to present their sound. The club context is key for me.

Would be interested to get your thoughts on this Metalbox, given what you said in the other thread about perception / inclusion of new producers.

Also i'm now overly hyped for the d1 release.

[pangaea]

Especially liked the point about DJs having to craft their own sound. The emergence of solid producer led dj sets is vital. But the opportunities for these DJs to play out still need to be created, their talents showcased on a big system. Red Star is excellent for this imho.

Agreed. It's just going to take a certain amount of risk taking by promoters, producers and DJs.

The dubstep power base still remains with a select few but really given where dubstep is at now new producers need to harness and create opportunities to present their sound. The club context is key for me.

Again, agreed. But won't this will 'fracture' the scene as it currently stands? And is this a good or a bad thing?

[blackdown]

The dubstep power base still remains with a select few...

i really think though, that the chance is there right now for newcomer producers to master their technology, pioneer their own vision and therefore make themselves big players.

[boomnoise]

The dubstep power base still remains with a select few but really given where dubstep is at now new producers need to harness and create opportunities to present their sound. The club context is key for me.

Again, agreed. But won't this will 'fracture' the scene as it currently stands? And is this a good or a bad thing?

The scene has always had fractal movements within it.

The dubstep power base still remains with a select few...

i really think though, that the chance is there right now for newcomer producers to master their technology, pioneer their own vision and therefore make themselves big players.

Exactly. Just what the current big players have all done to a greater or lesser extent.

[DeepThought]

once again nice writin m..

must admit to not actually likin 'give it back' much, but its not cos i dont understand its significance in the scene atm, its more down to my personal inability to digest cheese which is what that vocal style smells of to me..

Speaking of vision, Random Trio have completed work on their album for Tectonic, deliciously entitled "From the Shadows". It drops in April. The triple vinyl isn't finalised but the CD tracklist is "Gutter", "Mind Games", "Paradise Dub", "Rasta From", "Dirt", "Bounty", "Calm Before the Storm", "Watcher", "Indian Stomp", "Dark Future", "Crying Game", and "From the Shadows". It should be heavy like the DMZ soundsystem.

now thats somethin im hyped about though!

[metalboxproducts]

Especially liked the point about DJs having to craft their own sound. The emergence of solid producer led dj sets is vital. But the opportunities for these DJs to play out still need to be created, their talents showcased on a big system. Red Star is excellent for this imho.

Also interesting with regards to this is the possibility of producers doing Ableton Live sets. Elemental has been pioneering this and i would like to see more, especially from the talent on this forum.

Not that i'm advocating or predicting a move away from dubplate culture but i totally agree that now new DJs have to really differentiate themselves, have a key point of difference. We're passed the stage where people just want to hear the last anthems week in week out. Dubstep needs to be presented as the sonically varied creature it is. But internet radio / downloads can only provide this function to a limited degree.

I don't think that the exclusive producer-dj relationship can last for very much longer at all. Given, as you say, how the sound is being propagated. I think this has defined Youngsta's sound but it has also introduced some problems in terms of lack of variety, predictability etc.

Thinking in terms of gatekeepers, sound shapers etc is very interesting. The dubstep power base still remains with a select few but really given where dubstep is at now new producers need to harness and create opportunities to present their sound. The club context is key for me.

Would be interested to get your thoughts on this Metalbox, given what you said in the other thread about perception / inclusion of new producers.

Also i'm now overly hyped for the d1 release.

Give me a few days to come up with something that resemble's a semi intelligent responce

[metalboxproducts]

Can i just say that this week there has been some really intelligent threads that have put into words what a lot of people have been thinking/saying.

[shonky]

The Beezy mixtape is insane, not mad keen on the voice, but he's got that Kool Keith unhingedness about it. Lyrics are pretty out there to say the least...

[parson]

that was a really great read

[Whistla]

great read as ever Mr Down
def agree with you man
and boomie too
i'm so glad there are peeps who can write this stuff (stuff i have been chatting to peeps in clubs about etc) in a far more intelligible way than i ever cud, ur chess

[Whistla]

oh yeh
how cud i not say
Cyrus album OMD!!!!!!!!
big up the Random Trio each an every

[ozols man]

oi can someone do me a big favour and copy and paste the article onto this thread for me to read? my uni is proper wank and bans me from viewing basically anything thought evoking...
cheers