Barefiles

deapoh · Post by **deapoh** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:47 pm

To everyone interested in Barefiles and the Rinse FM mixes, I think it's best to inform everyone whats been going on for the last few months.

Basically, whilst working for Rinse FM they wanted to buy Barefiles from me and incorporate it into the Ammunition empire. Of course I kindly declined as Ive worked very hard to keep that website going and refuse to lose it, especially to someone who I feel is trying to monopolise a genre of music. So, they then proposed that I start to record all "big" Rinse FM shows from the studio and host them on their own website.

A couple of months ago I recieved a phone call from Geeneus, telling me, out of the blue that Im no longer allowed to record ANY Rinse FM mixes, nor allowed to host any other mixes from any of the Rinse FM DJ's, e.g. the Dubstep Forum Anniversary Mix by N-Type. Later on I got an email from Sarah stipulating all these terms for the future relationship of Barefiles & Rinse FM.

Here is part of the email that I recieved:

The only site/host/place that ANY Rinse sets or sets from Rinse FM
artists; including pre-records, recordings of the stream, live
events , performances, interviews (and any other) across all formats
will ONLY be available from an official Rinse site from now on (i.e.
rinse.fm and for the avoidance of doubt this means not on Barefiles)

We have been working towards setting this up for months now and we
will be making sure that any re-hosting of our content gets stopped
ASAP. We have the governing copyright protection agencies to help us
control this (as we have the relevant licenses set up already)

There is no way we will be changing our mind about this and need you
to be clearly informed.

As you can imagine I was gutted as I felt that one and a half years of my free labour and my life had gone down the drain. After an incredible amount of people supporting and encouraging me to get the website back up, including all the Rinse FM DJ's that I spoke to, Barefiles will be returning in a couple of weeks with quite a lot of positive differences. Sorry, but you're gonna have to hold tight to see what those differences are!

As a result of this situation I am no longer being associated with Rinse FM, neither as a DJ nor as a member of the "team".

I just wanna big up all the DJ's/producers/MC's I've contacted as they have all been proper safe about everything.

Safe,

Deapoh.

rickyricardo · Post by **rickyricardo** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:50 pm

Damn

hopper · Post by **hopper** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:53 pm

you're a soldier mate, sad news... look forward to reopening of barefiles though.

rudeski damager · Post by **rudeski damager** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:55 pm

lol... allow rinse going on like they are kiss100 or capital fm...

[big narstie]YOU AINT THAT GUY[/big narstie]

josephine · Post by **josephine** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:57 pm

Bloody disgusting.

However, Barefiles is gonna be BIG with all these changes, believe. Largin up Deapoh.

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:57 pm

Fucking hell. Amidst all their talk about copywrite and licensing laws, they seem to be forgetting that they're running a pirate radio station... this isn't what underground music is about.

but Deapoh, the last 18 months have definitely not been for nothing. Barefiles is one the main reasons dubstep has grown so much recently, which is why it's so sad to see the 'Ammunition Empire' act like this. Completely taking all your hard work for granted by the sounds of things.

Totally, utterly waste. I'm very disappointed indeed.

dopedragon · Post by **dopedragon** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:03 pm

big up, deaps, for standin strong.
RESPECT

hera · Post by **hera** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:05 pm

UFO over easy wrote:Fucking hell. Amidst all their talk about copywrite and licensing laws, they seem to be forgetting that they're running a pirate radio station...

bob grommit · Post by **bob grommit** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:05 pm

Massive respect Deapoh!

Keep ya head up bro.

josephine · Post by **josephine** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:05 pm

UFO over easy wrote:Fucking hell. Amidst all their talk about copywrite and licensing laws, they seem to be forgetting that they're running a pirate radio station... this isn't what underground music is about.

but Deapoh, the last 18 months have definitely not been for nothing. Barefiles is one the main reasons dubstep has grown so much recently, which is why it's so sad to see the 'Ammunition Empire' act like this. Completely taking all your hard work for granted by the sounds of things.

Totally, utterly waste. I'm very disappointed indeed.

Well said mate, I doubt they even acknowledge the fact that Deaps has pushed Dubstep beyond borders and has probably increased Tempa sales, swag attitude.
As for the whole "pirate station" thing, dont even get me started. I just feel sorry for all the DJ's who are no longer having their sets recorded, we'll see how long it takes until they start charging for their sets to be downloaded.

I could go on for days about this.

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:07 pm

Josephine wrote:I doubt they even acknowledge the fact that Deaps has pushed Dubstep beyond borders and has probably increased Tempa sales, swag attitude.

Totally, and for the same reasons they probably don't realise quite how many people they're going to piss off by acting so disrespectfully territorial.

How can they stop people recording sets... People have been recording radio forever, why on earth would they stop now?

RubiconMan · Post by **RubiconMan** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:07 pm

bwoah

didnt ever consider this could happen...barefiles hosting of rinse sets was a good thing for rinse, why they would do this i dunno, nuff heads must have started listnin to rinse after a d/l of a hosted set, rinsing your money on hostin em.

tmu · Post by **tmu** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:09 pm

sad to hear

thc · Post by **thc** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:20 pm

well... Geeneus is a wasteman then. And I call bullshit on Sarah, how can you have a copyright on something that's illegal anyway?

This is all bad for Rinse. I've lost a lot of respect for them.

rachel · Post by **rachel** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:21 pm

who's feelin a rinse site boycott??

ozols man · Post by **ozols man** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:23 pm

this is proper stoopid... theres enough sets i would like to hear that i dont have the time of day to normally do so, i dont see the logic in this..

josephine · Post by **josephine** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:24 pm

rachel wrote:who's feelin a rinse site boycott??

LOL..and Tempa, Bingo, FWD, Dumpvalve, Dubplate.net, Grime Tones, Soulja....ahhh the list goes on!

autonomic · Post by **autonomic** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:25 pm

Yeah, UFO on the money here.

Big ups Deapoh. Thanks for all your hard work and for filling us in on this.

I'm really disappointed to learn this about Ammo. Dubstep is where it is right now (i.e. becoming a 'business') in large part due to the efforts of people who've put a lot of time, money and effort into building scenes and spreading the sound without any desire for compensation. What happened last year to Gutterbreakz was gross and so is this. All part of the same pattern it seems.

They say don't bite the hand that feeds you.

I'll be taking down all Tempa/Ammo-related reviews that are currently on Riddim.ca.

d-range · Post by **d-range** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:26 pm

Are-K142 wrote:bwoah didnt ever consider this could happen...barefiles hosting of rinse sets was a good thing for rinse, why they would do this i dunno, nuff heads must have started listnin to rinse after a d/l of a hosted set, rinsing your money on hostin em.

thats what so hard to understand about the whole thing.....

I cant understand why Rinse didnt see the positive aspects and want to work something out.

Rinse wants to try and form a monolopy and doenst care who they have to step on to do it. They are after money!

Fluck em!

d-range

d-range · Post by **d-range** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:28 pm

autonomic wrote: I'll be taking down all Tempa/Ammo-related reviews that are currently on Riddim.ca.

Bigup!

d-range

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