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wicked tips. gonna try some of this over the next few days.

can u assign an LFO to the synths that come with Ableton Live 5?

yea, you can assign Operator's LFO to oscillators A, B, C, D, and the Filter section. Operator's just awesome for bass patches.

untold wrote:I knocked up a tutorial a while back that covers the basics...

bout half way down the page

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=780&start=15

nice! thx homey

Anyone have some tutorials on how to do this in reason?

Should I be using the Subtractor, or Malstrom synth?

I've tried to apply some of the suggestions but I've gotten nowhere, Im more of a "let me see how it works and rip it apart" kind of learner.

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Edit: I was playing around with malstrom, and if you link mod output a with filter in the back of it, then adjust the rate of mod a it does the "wob wob wob" thing... progress!

AntiLynd wrote:yea, you can assign Operator's LFO to oscillators A, B, C, D, and the Filter section. Operator's just awesome for bass patches.

wicked. if I ever get some free time when I'm not at work or painting at home defo on that.

bowzer wrote:Anyone have some tutorials on how to do this in reason?

Should I be using the Subtractor, or Malstrom synth?

I've tried to apply some of the suggestions but I've gotten nowhere, Im more of a "let me see how it works and rip it apart" kind of learner.

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Edit: I was playing around with malstrom, and if you link mod output a with filter in the back of it, then adjust the rate of mod a it does the "wob wob wob" thing... progress!

resample your synth you like and load it into nn19

set the lfo to filter (default is pitch)

adjust amount, rate, and frequency to suit your needs

Thanks Parson, that's really helpful! Gonna put it to use on my tune before I post it up... gonna by my first tune ever. Sounds good so far though.

Mr. Bowzer: in Reason, get the Malstrom to play a square wave at A1 or summat. Enable both oscillators, send each through a filter and set the fine tuning of one to +24 cents. Set the other to -24 cents. Set Modulator B to 'sync', choose your rate and turn up the 'mod B to filter' knob until it goes 'wawawa'. Maybe bring the filters down a bit. Turn the 'spread' knob up a bit so you get some stereo. High pass at 100Hz; bit of compression and there you go. Lots of tweaking/automation is recommended to get your own personal fave wobble...

blood_on_neon wrote:Mr. Bowzer: in Reason, get the Malstrom to play a square wave at A1 or summat. Enable both oscillators, send each through a filter and set the fine tuning of one to +24 cents. Set the other to -24 cents. Set Modulator B to 'sync', choose your rate and turn up the 'mod B to filter' knob until it goes 'wawawa'. Maybe bring the filters down a bit. Turn the 'spread' knob up a bit so you get some stereo. High pass at 100Hz; bit of compression and there you go. Lots of tweaking/automation is recommended to get your own personal fave wobble...

nice.

KION wrote:ES1 (if you use Logic) - no frills all thrills.

real talk!

blood_on_neon wrote:Mr. Bowzer: in Reason, get the Malstrom to play a square wave at A1 or summat. Enable both oscillators, send each through a filter and set the fine tuning of one to +24 cents. Set the other to -24 cents. Set Modulator B to 'sync', choose your rate and turn up the 'mod B to filter' knob until it goes 'wawawa'. Maybe bring the filters down a bit. Turn the 'spread' knob up a bit so you get some stereo. High pass at 100Hz; bit of compression and there you go. Lots of tweaking/automation is recommended to get your own personal fave wobble...

"Enable both oscillators, send each through a filter and set the fine tuning of one to +24 cents. Set the other to -24 cents."
I found that you can get a similar effect by bypassing the 24 cents detuning in an odd way, simply by pushing two successive notes simultanously. It might limit your control of the wobble, but it's a neat and clean effect.
Ad in combination of some cv-routing you're in for ride

acid 5 users can use the wah wah tempo sync

with in built filter


i may be the only one using acid 5 ha ha ha

Anyone have any ideas how to get my wobble on using an MPC100 and Microkorg?

CHEERS

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dunno if the microkorg has an LFO, but i imagine it does. suppose you could sample it and run it through an MPC (dont own either tho)

also, if your using cubase, the monologue synth has some pretty badass LFO options. I like to set the lfo to the filter cutoff, and then set the LFO amount to the modwheel. the bass sounds a lot more 'energetic', as im playing it live and feeling, instead of just automating. (also, automating is a pain in the ass for me when i can just do it!)

also, the free vst from FXpansion, orca, has some pretty killer bass, i dont think its too good with the wobble tho.

I use reaktor, i fucking LOVE it, and the carbon 1 (B is the best) kills it for workhorse synth needs, and ive made some pretty cool reese's on it in the past. if you've got reaktor 5, check out 2 osc, that things pretty dope too.

ive made some nice noisia style basslines with the 2osc and a shitload of notch/band eqs automated over it.

actually, if the op has cubase sx3, i can send you a preset i have, if i can figure out how to send it...

LFO isn't the only way to get a wobbly bassline.

You can also take a bassline and double it up and then pitch one up or down a little bit. The offtime phase cancellation will cause the sound to wobble. Also the speed of the wobble will increase or decrease depending on which note you hit next.

The other way is to sample a short clip of a bassnote with a amplitude or filter envelope on it. Then take that short sample, put it in your sampler and set it to loop. This will also achieve the same increase or decrease in wobble speed as described above.

The upside to those methods is that you still have your LFOs free to other interesting things and get more complex sounds.

eventualdecline wrote:LFO isn't the only way to get a wobbly bassline.

You can also take a bassline and double it up and then pitch one up or down a little bit. The offtime phase cancellation will cause the sound to wobble. Also the speed of the wobble will increase or decrease depending on which note you hit next.

i mentioned that exact same method on the reaktor forums... i thought i was soooo original too! its a killer method.

if u want more freedom than the boring old synced wobble you can draw an automation curve in the cc channel of your choice, assigned to filter cutoff knob
you can make sick morphing sounds this way, instead of being locked to straight sync on 1/4, 1/8, 1/16 etc

...when i do werble, i try to not use exact timing, there are too many other timings that are just ughhhhhhhhhh - they just take way more fiddling to find, and it's best if older family members are not around, so they don't start talking about how 'jimmy' just wobbles all the time.