Thanks manic, I'll check those out

The rules I currently have aren't sounding good. The rules I noticed in 99% of the music i listen to are hats that are at the same time as the kick that make it not feel 100% 808 and the two blend together to give a bigger punch to the kick. I don't know how to EQ this hat though because it is usual...

There has to be a hat playing at the same time as the kick if there's no instrument playing...
"Where it sounds good" is what I'm looking for but can't find.

Subtle reeverb is always used in mah tracks but it's still empty to me.

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It's cool, I just tried the z3ta demo because I realised I've never tried it (like a retard) and it's very versatile at making really intense waveforms... I'm screwing around with it now, it's so awesome!!
I've already gotten really close!

Awesome, thanks for the info

Don't worry about it, if it isn't i'll be disappointed in myself

-[2]DAY_- I've been writing music for 5 years (so no I haven't "cracked some mighty synths"). This is the one thing confusing me I know a lot of "secrets" (every single instrument/FX/sample in ghosts n stuff, for example, I found by ear in my sample library and by reading some in...

Ramp down env?

I use 3xOsc..
Any ideas still? no? anyone? This kind of waveform seems to be in every well produced song out there.

I don't want to rip sounds. I want to make them myself to have more versatility
I would have done that ages ago if I wanted to steal

I have albino, nexus, massive, any good/known VST
I analyse every wave I come across, and I'm telling you nothing you can make on these synths resembles (even the slightest bit) these waveforms.

I'm sure it's nothing a regular synth can do. I've tried almost everything with my damn VSTs and I just can't get it.

It's not. (I'm pretty sure). Maybe the one on the center-right (that's unintentionally) highlighted is... but the one in the center-mid/center-top... I can post another pic though to "prove" it's not a saw... (the one that looks like a kick with a sin wave layered under it) Check this. I d...

http://www65.zippyshare.com/thumb/10862736/file.html This sound is used by deadmau5, wolfgang gartner, spencer&hill, and just about anyone who has a studio.. I just can't seem to understand what it comes from. What confuses me are the top right&bottom left... But what's even more mind-blast...