What kind of sample would you recommend? Also, do you think I can get the same type of results using massive instead of reason/malstrom?

by running it through massive, I mean that I have 2 tracks, one with massive and the other with my voice and a vocoder. I modulate the vocoder with massive

So, I've been working countless hours to get these two bass sounds, and I am completely stumped.

1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kgIDdWwxUg&t=1m53s

2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9cYEtYPBiI&t=0m54s


For #1, I've been using massive with ohmicide and a saturator.
For #2, I've been speaking ...