Daphter wrote:Yeh no pop if you have the power supply otherwise it loses the juice when you unplug it from the laptop and cant transmit the line or phono signal.. That was my conclusion anyway..

robotic wrote:u conclude correctly, but once again, why would you either switch laptops with the mixer switched to line or turn off your computer - your power source - in the case of there not being an external power supply? there would be dead silence in the club while u do this... something i don't recommend for the middle of a show... tends to be kind of a turnoff for your guests.
Kidlogic provided the solution, albeit tricky to achieve, not impossible! I figured it had been established we were talking about swapping from one DJs laptop to the other??
robotic wrote:the fact is that you need power to repeat a phono signal in order to pass it through to another phono input. whether that power comes from a laptop usb port or a dedicated power supply is irrelevant,
I think its relevance has been established, you need a dedicated power supply (ie an additional piece of kit) to avoid the unplug replug scenario..
robotic wrote:that brings me to your next point. sound coloring of the phono signal?? where did u get such an idea? the signal gets passed through the hardware, there is no conversion, no adjustment of the signal, just some basic amplification done by rane gear - and rane is a company that's been making professional phono amplifiers as part of their dj products for over 15 years!
I'll keep an open mind about this however I think its fair that a product be put to this type of scrutiny rather than discussion becoming nothing more than a glorified advertisement, it is not unreasonable to say that the box colours the phono signal albeit slightly. Have you noticed the sonic differences between a Pioneer, Xone and Rane mixer? Every component adds its own colour to the sound. To my ears Rane DJ gear tends to sound crunched or "digital". Allen & Heath mixers have 0.01% distortion or something in that order and to my ears a "warmer" sound. I think that this is where further development should take place to improve the product as it is a very usable platform..
robotic wrote:to say that serato is in a beta state is also completely preposterous. when it came out four years ago, it worked reliably and correctly right away... at version 1.0! competing products at the time - like final scratch v1.5 and whatever pcdj was on - were all buggy and virtually unusable even after a number of revisions. the makers of serato are rightfully proud of their product, and unlike the competition, they make themselves publicly available in the scratch live forum and have since the release of serato made many improvements based on user suggestions. in doing so they have continued to add value to something i purchased over 3 years ago, and i can't say that's the case with much else i've bought over the years.
Lol @ preposterous but some good points guy. I do agree that SSL is the best product in its category. I dont think its as good as it could be though and feel the retail prictag is too high especially here in NZ where it is developed. If I was considering forking out for it again (I did own it for a while) Id like to have a range of objective opinions to take into account.
