back to the future garage?joeki wrote:
Boards of Canada used both Kitchen Utensils as well as rainy nights, did they produce proto-garage?![]()

back to the future garage?joeki wrote:
Boards of Canada used both Kitchen Utensils as well as rainy nights, did they produce proto-garage?![]()
joeki wrote:Gotta play with the cards you're dealt. Here I am wishing Jungle would totally come back.
Then again, in Belgium, the scene was fucking special. Much like dubstep: 20-30 heads doing their thing in small smoky venues with big rigs. The music might have been different, the vibe sure wasn't. (jungle revived here in a big time about 2001-2003, just before dubstep started to come up here).
Best times of my life. That's the reason why I'm no fan of the 'new' dubstep: that vibe is gone. Inherently, I have no beef with the tear-out movement, or the fans. My grievances stem more from a selfish wish to return to those days I suppose.
And that's what brings me to house/garage revival: again, different music but right now, that special vibe is there. 50 people enjoying music for the value of music (and a bit of a dance), small venues, all big fun without going bombastic or ballistic.
So there is a thread!
Boards of Canada used both Kitchen Utensils as well as rainy nights, did they produce proto-garage?![]()
Wow, you have me in tears now as well!
That Niche/Bassline part is essential, as well as the influence of Todd Edwards.Whistla wrote:Personally I dont think there was "one tune" which made the split.
It was a number of factors that gradually led to there being an obvious distinction between what is now called Dubstep and what is now called Future Garage.
In the beginning there was no name and loads were used if you remember, like Detroit 2 Step, Psychedelic Garage, Future Garage, 2 Dub etc etc..
There were loads of names floating around, and the one that stuck was Future Garage.
I seem to be constantly asked to explain the name to people, even the same people more than once!
The Future part of the name doesn't mean "this will be what people will listen to in the future" which is what a lot of detractors seem to think it does.
What the Future part means is simply giving Garage a future.
If you remember in 2006 it was unthinkable to say you were into Garage, it was a swear word in clubs. Future Garage (along with Niche/Bassline) has rehabilitated Garage as a whole, benefiting everyone in all strands of Garage now (new and old).
Why not just simply call it Garage (or even worse "UKG") well for one UKG is not seeking a progressive scene, old UKG djs very rarely play new material, maybe 1 or 2 tracks in a set if your very lucky. Future Garage is all about new sounds and really pushing what Garage can and should be. Future Garage also shouldn't be confused with a genre proper, rather, Future Garage is a descriptive term for the collection of diff strands of Garage that are around right now pushing Garage forward. You have what most people probably think of as being FG (deep and/or ambient sounding slinky tunes) but there is also Nu Garage (think Mike Delinquent), there is New Skool Garage (think Elski, Solution), Niche/Bassline (think Sheffield scene) there are numerous other smaller sub-scenes like the UKB, Psychedelic and Tech scenes. To simply say "its all Garage" is true, but doesn't define what type of Garage it is, its like saying "its House" well what kind of House?
UKG (traditional 2 Step and 4 by 4) should really be thought of as Old School Garage, the people making "new UKG" aren't looking for a healthy scene full of diff influences, they are looking to relive the glory days of the late 90's with an attitude of "if we can milk this again lets do it".
If you want a prediction in the future there will loads of strands of Garage and the "oh but in the future we cant call it Future Garage" debate is moot because by then everything that is currently considered Future Garage will have been broken down into more refined definitions of Garage.
Hope that's been of some help
listen to Geenus - Shocka (Dub Mix)joeki wrote:Niche/bassline isn't necessarily my thing though I have to admit I'm no expert. In the house forum it's come up a few times. I've dugg into MikeQ's stuff but that's about as far informed as I am. It's heavy system music all right, but it doesn't speak to me at all. Lack of melody, and lack of rhythmical challenge for me personally in the stuff that I've heard. I adore my music in a home setting as much as the club...
Todd Edwards though....he changed my life. No worries seckle, I might use UK Garage as a nomenclature, I have not forgotten the States
there was a discussion of moombahton in the main forum I'd say bassline is at least as suitabletomity wrote:Do ya reckon it would be a good idea to start a thread discussing bassline and other such things? It would make me very happy but I dunno if it's suitable for the main forum.
ahemjoeki wrote:
Boards of Canada used both Kitchen Utensils as well as rainy nights, did they produce proto-garage?![]()
I'm not at all familiair with the jungle scene here but I would love to be, pls inform me a lljoeki wrote:Gotta play with the cards you're dealt. Here I am wishing Jungle would totally come back.
Then again, in Belgium, the scene was fucking special. Much like dubstep: 20-30 heads doing their thing in small smoky venues with big rigs. The music might have been different, the vibe sure wasn't. (jungle revived here in a big time about 2001-2003, just before dubstep started to come up here).
Best times of my life. That's the reason why I'm no fan of the 'new' dubstep: that vibe is gone. Inherently, I have no beef with the tear-out movement, or the fans. My grievances stem more from a selfish wish to return to those days I suppose.
And that's what brings me to house/garage revival: again, different music but right now, that special vibe is there. 50 people enjoying music for the value of music (and a bit of a dance), small venues, all big fun without going bombastic or ballistic.
So there is a thread!
Boards of Canada used both Kitchen Utensils as well as rainy nights, did they produce proto-garage?![]()
Wow, you have me in tears now as well!
Go for ittomity wrote:Do ya reckon it would be a good idea to start a thread discussing bassline and other such things? It would make me very happy but I dunno if it's suitable for the main forum.
epochalypso wrote:man dun no bout da 'nuum
Hey man MirRen,mIrReN wrote:I'm not at all familiair with the jungle scene here but I would love to be, pls inform me a lljoeki wrote:Gotta play with the cards you're dealt. Here I am wishing Jungle would totally come back.
Then again, in Belgium, the scene was fucking special. Much like dubstep: 20-30 heads doing their thing in small smoky venues with big rigs. The music might have been different, the vibe sure wasn't. (jungle revived here in a big time about 2001-2003, just before dubstep started to come up here).
Best times of my life. That's the reason why I'm no fan of the 'new' dubstep: that vibe is gone. Inherently, I have no beef with the tear-out movement, or the fans. My grievances stem more from a selfish wish to return to those days I suppose.
And that's what brings me to house/garage revival: again, different music but right now, that special vibe is there. 50 people enjoying music for the value of music (and a bit of a dance), small venues, all big fun without going bombastic or ballistic.
So there is a thread!
Boards of Canada used both Kitchen Utensils as well as rainy nights, did they produce proto-garage?![]()
Wow, you have me in tears now as well!
always liked term psychedelic garageWhistla wrote: In the beginning there was no name and loads were used if you remember, like Detroit 2 Step, Psychedelic Garage, Future Garage, 2 Dub etc etc..
around those times there were elitist attitudes towards garage as being cheesy, but now it's the garage stuff which is seen as tasteful and seriously taken music. tbh i'm sure some of these ppl are making and listening to future garage now...If you remember in 2006 it was unthinkable to say you were into Garage, it was a swear word in clubs.
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