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Re: Vinyl prices

Post by Cold Storage Records » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:49 pm

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And what are the benefits?
When you take the record out of the sleeve it sounds warmer.
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Post by Doozle » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:26 pm

Cold Storage Records wrote:
Marcus wrote:
Terpit wrote:Where can I get camel hair inner lining from??
And what are the benefits?
When you take the record out of the sleeve it sounds warmer.
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What's best, warm records, or cold stored records :P

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Re: Vinyl prices

Post by benjam » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:31 pm

Terpit wrote:Where can I get camel hair inner lining from??
And what are the benefits?
Psst! Its all about the alpaca hair

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Re: Vinyl prices

Post by Marcus » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:04 pm

Doozle wrote:
Cold Storage Records wrote:
Marcus wrote:
Terpit wrote:Where can I get camel hair inner lining from??
And what are the benefits?
When you take the record out of the sleeve it sounds warmer.
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What's best, warm records, or cold stored records :P
Depends on music really, you will want your standard dark Youngsta 140 tune much colder than the rest of your tunes if you want to best out of them.
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Post by Be-1ne » Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:04 pm

Bought this in 1995 - this is the original price sticker....... tunes ain't gone up that much in nearly 20 years kids.
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Re: Vinyl prices

Post by chekov » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:24 pm

that's an import though init
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Re: Vinyl prices

Post by Cold Storage Records » Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:50 pm

Marcus wrote:
Doozle wrote:
Cold Storage Records wrote:
Marcus wrote:
Terpit wrote:Where can I get camel hair inner lining from??
And what are the benefits?
When you take the record out of the sleeve it sounds warmer.
looool
What's best, warm records, or cold stored records :P
Depends on music really, you will want your standard dark Youngsta 140 tune much colder than the rest of your tunes if you want to best out of them.

always keep a compressor on the radiator for extra warmth

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Re: Vinyl prices

Post by Be-1ne » Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:14 pm

chekov wrote:that's an import though init
Depends how you define import these days. Most records are not pressed in England anymore. But regardless even if you want to be specific to country back in the 90's the average mo wax tune was about £5, still not much of a price hike in 20 years.
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Re: Vinyl prices

Post by kaiten » Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:56 pm

Be-1ne wrote:Bought this in 1995 - this is the original price sticker....... tunes ain't gone up that much in nearly 20 years kids.
I have to agree with this. I started buying vinyl from my local shops in 2001 and I frequently paid $10.99+ for singles and $18.99+ for double packs. As for my local stores, the two best ones closed several years ago and the other one in town no longer stocks electronic music like they used to (I bought DMZ 006 & 007 brand new there in 2007), so my only option now is to order online (and therefore from overseas).

Even with the prices climbing slightly (I'll admit they have), I still am averaging paying $10 for singles and $20 for double packs (including shipping), which is more than worth it for me to own tunes that I want on vinyl.

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Re: Vinyl prices

Post by the wiggle baron » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:54 pm

Be-1ne wrote:
chekov wrote:that's an import though init
Depends how you define import these days. Most records are not pressed in England anymore. But regardless even if you want to be specific to country back in the 90's the average mo wax tune was about £5, still not much of a price hike in 20 years.
Then why such a shift in the last year? First off, nuff of that condescending use of the word kids there mr b1, youre one of the sensible guys on here :)

Like, im not trying to big myself up here at all, but ive bought...alot of dubstep. Like, way too much to be honest. Alot of it as I look at it now is throw away, but thats besides the point. All I know is that in the last year or so, there definitely has been a hike in prices. Without a shadow of doubt...at all. And were just wondering the reasons for this? Having a quick look through chemical just now, the average price seems to be around the £7 mark (with a warm feeling of love coming from DMZ still being £5.99. <3 forever) anyway, when I was first buying dubstep in 05/06, or even later than that up to probably the '10 mark, £6 was definitely the average. This means in the last 2/3 years, the avg price has gone from 6 to 7 quid. Want to know why! Increases in raw production costs due to increased oil prices or something? A very short sighted way for people to make the vinyl market cost effective in the short term? Its finally time for a price hike? Whatever it is, we just want to know :D

Not including the OP. he just wants to know why there can be such a discrepancy lol and hes entirely right to. Asking the same question from a different angle. How come DMZ can print amazing 180gm vinyl releases and get them out for £6 still while other labels are £7.49 as a standard?
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Re: Vinyl prices

Post by chekov » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:03 pm

the wiggle baron wrote:How come DMZ can print amazing 180gm vinyl releases and get them out for £6 still while other labels are £7.49 as a standard?
this is also what i'm wondering
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Post by Terpit » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:05 pm

Maybe they can afford to charge less for records because their shows sell out (im assuming they do) and they must earn a lot from that
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Post by PinUp » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:10 pm

DMZ haven't put on a dance in aaaaaaaaaages though
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Re: Vinyl prices

Post by the wiggle baron » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:12 pm

Terpit wrote:Maybe they can afford to charge less for records because their shows sell out (im assuming they do) and they must earn a lot from that
Yeah see this is the kind of thing Im thinking. Which to my eyes definitely shows a difference in ethos between people putting out vinyl for the absoloute love of it, and people trying to make a couple bucks. I guess without that lure the market might whittle out and die (or maybe the shit throw away labels that make up most of it might just disappear :/ )

Also, the DMZ camp know that stand against war is going to sell out, and have no worries about not covering their losses.

I dunno, it just seems a bit off to me. For it to have happened so recently, for other labels to be able to keep costs down...all I know is, dubstep alone was better 6 years ago when there was 1 or 2 (well priced :D) releases a month and they were ALL instabag long standing classics! Mind you, no ones making me buy records, so I can ignore what im implying are overpriced profiteering labels releasing crap. So its a bit self conflicting.

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Re: Vinyl prices

Post by Geey » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:22 pm

chekov wrote:
the wiggle baron wrote:How come DMZ can print amazing 180gm vinyl releases and get them out for £6 still while other labels are £7.49 as a standard?
this is also what i'm wondering
Yeah dusky's new record on the new loefah label school records is £7.99 it hasn't even got any artwork for what I can see from the picture of it on chemical and red eye?? That's £2 difference to the dmz029

is it just greediness? Or are they not getting as good a deal as dmz at the cutting yard?

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Post by Be-1ne » Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:22 pm

Ok kids :-D haha it's a turn if phrase not a condescending diss. Just so ya know.

Been real here! It's most likely comes down to these things.

Dmz comes in a plain thin card sleeve. Like the chest plate releases. These are the cheapest sleeves, unless you just have paper. Anything other than this wacks on a few extra quid for the label.

Anything more than two colours on a label, on the record, big price increase! White labels obviously the cheapest.

Quality of the vinyl makes a big difference in price, I.e. 180g much more expensive than standard 150g. I do recal all my dmz vinyls are not 180.

Then you have different mastering prices depending on engineer, and weather the labels sorts it themselves or use a broker.

It is shocking how much difference a few pence makes x by however many records you press.

A massively hyped tune can sell 500 straight up, a good tune maybe 200/300 over time. A slept on record or not so good record can be the death of a label. Some artists gig regularly so perhaps use this to fund their label.

Personally, if I had a gig or two a month which paid, and I'm not talking silly money. Would certainly impact on my label, not only would it have more exposure and promo, I would be able to back the label with more than a spare few quid out my wages. I think initially people were happy to support the scene buying releases. This sometimes isn't the case and hits the labels hard. I doubt any of the labels make enough exclusively through sales to making a living but so the gigs help fund the label. The ethos of putting in to get out is often lost and I truly tip my hat and say thanks to anyone who has said a kind word and put their hand in their pocket to by an area recordings release whether digital or vinyl.

Our vinyls prices went up as you can't justify running the label at a loss, but I try to add value with good packaging that will keep the records safe and not scratch them up over time.

Make of it what you will but that's my thoughts on it. I'm not saying vinyl rules and all that as everyone should know my stance, but support the people / labels that are adding to the scene. Without the music available it's arguable we'd have one any more.

On a plus note, we got 2 new releases scheduled for next year already! Someone get me some bookings and well make it more :-)
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Post by Func » Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:13 pm

IMO it's greediness, I can buy I Butterz release with full artwork for £6 but when It comes to buying a standard AUS release or a 10" WNCL release I'm paying £9?
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Re: Vinyl prices

Post by assassimon » Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:35 pm

the wiggle baron wrote: How come DMZ can print amazing 180gm vinyl releases and get them out for £6 still while other labels are £7.49 as a standard?
my guess: because they are a label known for setting a certain standard, people buy their records to gain money once they're sold out.
people ask crazy amount of money for some of their releases that haven't been out for only a few years.
DMZ can afford to keep their prices low, unlike small labels with less experience and not that much of a name, they know they'll get everything out.
not to mention that, this being said, pressing records, and I'm strictly guessing here, might cost them less, distribution may not be as expensive, as people responsible for that side of putting a record out, are aware of the stated above.

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