10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by sigbowls » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:33 pm

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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by garethom » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:40 pm

I wish it was a more loving hub, though. This could have been the platform for some wonderful collaboration, shared gigs, and great music.
It's funny the way people go on about this place. If they have a bad experience here, usually through fault of their own, the whole forum is shit, and everyone there is an "uptight nerd". What a joke. I've got loads done musically thanks to this place, and it HAS been a platform for those things.

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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by ehbes » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:13 pm

idk why he hate us so much

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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by clayrocks » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:14 pm

garethom wrote:
I wish it was a more loving hub, though. This could have been the platform for some wonderful collaboration, shared gigs, and great music.
It's funny the way people go on about this place. If they have a bad experience here, usually through fault of their own, the whole forum is shit, and everyone there is an "uptight nerd". What a joke. I've got loads done musically thanks to this place, and it HAS been a platform for those things.
I agree, this forum is probably the best when it comes learning how to produce as there is a thread for pretty much anything. Like you said, the only people who don't like it are those who have brought it upon themselves, usually by their arrogance..

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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by hugh » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:12 pm

garethom wrote:
I wish it was a more loving hub, though. This could have been the platform for some wonderful collaboration, shared gigs, and great music.
It's funny the way people go on about this place. If they have a bad experience here, usually through fault of their own, the whole forum is shit, and everyone there is an "uptight nerd". What a joke. I've got loads done musically thanks to this place, and it HAS been a platform for those things.
+1 for myself, and I have had plenty of negative feedback to go along with that as well.
If you can't learn to take that shit on the chin and move on then I am afraid you are just a wet blanket. Going on about it just shows how incredibly insecure people are - especially hilarious in the case of genuinely successful producers+djs *COUGH PLASTICIAN COUGH*

Honestly this forum is arguably the least uptight forum I have ever regularly visited and it is more the pleasure for it.
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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by hugh » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:14 pm

nevermind, if you browse the comments section the writer gets fucking slated :cornlol:
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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by chekov » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:16 pm

he sounds pretty #edm even tho he says he doesnt like the term
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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by R0WR0W » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:53 pm

2-3 years late on this one
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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by kidshuffle » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:04 pm

I think all his points are pretty spot on in this article. His whole thing about booking agencies, visas and venues are the truth. A lot of us promoters lost a lot of money in the early days trying to push original sounds and had to make up for that some how. "EDM" got more people interested in coming to our shows, but only if we brought what they thought was dubstep...and thus we are where we are today (or rather where we were in 2011).


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Great list Nappy... I'd dissagree on DSF a little bit, but only because I know we both had drastically different experiences on there. If met some great people and was actually exposed to other genres like Skweee, UK Funky, and some Juke (pre footwork revalation), but I do agree there were some closed minded cats on there. I think the biggest fault DSF had (other than shunning the thugstep as a step forward) was not allowing the early "filth" a new genre name. True, 'dubstep' the term may not have gotten as big but it wouldnt have been drawn through the mud the way it has either. Instead we had 25 page threads on how subgenres were going to kill the genre when they probably would have sved its integrity - no one thinks of clownstep when you say dnb anymore.
Nappy was on here for years (DH even apparently went and made a drunken thread about him in 07 :P ), and tbh I liked a lot of his bootlegs. They were actually a big reason I lurked here back in the day. He is 100% right though; when has DSF really been accepting of new sounds, especially in the General Forum?
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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by TopManLurka » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:28 pm

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Oh dear...
What did DSF do wrong?
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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by fiveone » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:36 pm

^ loooooooooooooooooooool truth

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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by titchbit » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:42 pm

kidshuffle wrote:I think all his points are pretty spot on in this article. His whole thing about booking agencies, visas and venues are the truth. A lot of us promoters lost a lot of money in the early days trying to push original sounds and had to make up for that some how. "EDM" got more people interested in coming to our shows, but only if we brought what they thought was dubstep...and thus we are where we are today (or rather where we were in 2011).
yep. EDM is just a symptom of a broader consumer culture. people don't like music that they aren't familiar with. it puts them out of their comfort zone and makes them feel awkward.

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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by khal » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:05 pm

TopManLurka wrote:
clayrocks wrote:http://doandroidsdance.com/features/10- ... tep-forum/
Oh dear...
What did DSF do wrong?
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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by Mason » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:43 pm

kidshuffle wrote: when has DSF really been accepting of new sounds, especially in the General Forum?
yeah but why should we be this ain't new sound forum is it m8
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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by alphacat » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:40 pm

The US didn't invent work visas, nor are they the only country try to require 'em. Festival platforms? How the fuck is that an American problem? Tell that to the Outlook promoters. Not to mention the misdirected gripes against the biz - again, America is not Beatport, nor is DSF. Oh and DJG has gone off on the four on the floor trip as of the last couple years, as have most SF acts sadly. Bass drops come from DnB - a quintessentially British form.

Conclusion: waste article is waste. Not worth the read tbh. Nothing intelligent or new.

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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by test_recordings » Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:34 am

Mason wrote:
kidshuffle wrote: when has DSF really been accepting of new sounds, especially in the General Forum?
yeah but why should we be this ain't new sound forum is it m8
I think people would be pissed off at calling DnB techno, or jungle as hardcore etc. Like calling Skrillex 'dubstep' was a particularly bad influence; even he said he didn't make it, it was just the hype machine built around him that decided to do so so to take advantage of it's popularity at the time.

Edit: how the fuck does DSF count as the USA?
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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by bennyfroobs » Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:55 am

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his shit bootlegs got flamed 5 years ago and hes still booing his eyes out over it

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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by bennyfroobs » Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:58 am

w8 dsf is american now... ?

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Re: 10 Ways the United States Failed Dubstep

Post by orangeluva56 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:55 am

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