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DIGIDUB

Post by intoccabile » Tue May 16, 2006 11:00 pm

From what I gather ( articles, conversations ), the term digidub is often used as an insult...

" You don't wanna end up doing DIGIDUB "

What is it exactly ???

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Post by blackdown » Tue May 16, 2006 11:05 pm

80s digital dub is considered derivative of and inferior to the original 70s analogue dub. it's sonic pioneers v imitators: the insult relates to the issue of authenticity.
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Post by boomnoise » Tue May 16, 2006 11:23 pm

there is some great stuff tho if you dig.

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Re: DIGIDUB

Post by viceroy » Wed May 17, 2006 2:59 am

Intoccabile wrote:From what I gather ( articles, conversations ), the term digidub is often used as an insult...

" You don't wanna end up doing DIGIDUB "

What is it exactly ???
Yea man, check the forum. I see it used all the time for dubstep tunes.

If its done right then its done right, analoge or digital.

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Post by testfeld » Wed May 17, 2006 10:07 am

I dont know why people have an antipathy against the so called "digidub". If you check the studio gear of most dub producers nowadays you will still find lots of analogue gear from guitars, percussions, delays, phaser... and there are also live musicians involved in digidub productions. Imo the classification digidub doesnt reflect the art of producing this music.

And that the
sonic pioneers
always made high quality and that
digital dub considered derivative of and inferior to the original 70s
is also a myth.

As always: It's all a matter of taste (says the monkey and licks the cats ass).

A few digidubbers i really like

Audio Active (Japan)
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/ ... rsk/offers

Twilight Circus (Netherlands)
http://www.twilightcircus.com/discography/190.html

Zion Train
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B ... 61-6566637

Jah Warrior
http://www.jahwarrior.com/

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Post by deepsix » Wed May 17, 2006 1:27 pm

For me, the term DIGIDUB is more about the feel than the actual genre.

I often listen to a dubstep tune I'm working on and say to my self "This isn't dubSTEP - this is just DIGIDUB!" (*just* haha, it still usually sounds good, but it's definitely not what I was aiming for).

For me, personally, it happens especially when I try to write 1/2 step stuff or use more melodic elements.

And yeah, dub vs. digidub is a moot point IMO - good music is still good music. I don't think Martin was implying that ALL digidub is bad, just that the term is used in reference to the differences (perceived or real) between the two. Kind of like "Man, olskool is so much better than nuskool <enter genre name here>"

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Post by subzer » Wed May 17, 2006 1:36 pm

how about Up, Bustle and Out, Urban Evacuation.... bristol meets jamaica :)

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Post by dust shop » Wed May 17, 2006 2:40 pm

isn't "rythm & sound" digidub??? anyway they made such dope tracks on burial mix!

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Post by clone.a.k. » Wed May 17, 2006 5:56 pm

for me it's just like it sounds. digital dub. ie; dub made through digital means.
also check the vibronicsand tikiman, roostsman. i would call these digidub.
basically anything that sounds more digital and is dub music.

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Post by grievous_angel » Fri May 19, 2006 9:52 am

Digidub is post-Sleng Teng, primarily UK version of dub, which used digital production methods. Dread and Fred's Warrior Stance is widely seen as the first great digidub record; there are many. I think it's wrong to use the term pejoratively, especially since it has been a staple of Jah Shaka's legendary nights as well as those of Iration Steppas, Jah Tubby's et al.

If you want to check out classic digidub your best bet is to listen to UK reggae archivist and writer Pete Murdertone's excellent mix for Jahtari at http://www.jahtari.org/music/tapes.htm. There are extensive sleeve notes on the history of the tunes.

The eighties digidub sound was an important precursor of dubstep, and before that garage, and before that, acid house. For some further information - the whole story has not all been written up yet - go read John Eden’s seminal article on the connection between digidub and acid house, ands all that came after: London Acid City: When Two Eights Clash: http://uncarved.org/blog/?p=4.

Digidub is alright!

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Post by joseph-j » Fri May 19, 2006 2:13 pm

For some reason digidub always makes me think if terrible 90s crap like Dreadzone or wasteman hippie music like Planet Dog.

<shudder>

I don't count Rhythm & Sound as digidub. Because they don't sound digital. They sound organic.

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Post by 2000f » Fri May 19, 2006 4:15 pm

Grievous Angel wrote:Digidub is post-Sleng Teng, primarily UK version of dub, which used digital production methods. Dread and Fred's Warrior Stance is widely seen as the first great digidub record; there are many. I think it's wrong to use the term pejoratively, especially since it has been a staple of Jah Shaka's legendary nights as well as those of Iration Steppas, Jah Tubby's et al.

If you want to check out classic digidub your best bet is to listen to UK reggae archivist and writer Pete Murdertone's excellent mix for Jahtari at http://www.jahtari.org/music/tapes.htm. There are extensive sleeve notes on the history of the tunes.

The eighties digidub sound was an important precursor of dubstep, and before that garage, and before that, acid house. For some further information - the whole story has not all been written up yet - go read John Eden’s seminal article on the connection between digidub and acid house, ands all that came after: London Acid City: When Two Eights Clash: http://uncarved.org/blog/?p=4.

Digidub is alright!

Thank you so much for the 88 link. Never heard of those tunes or that Ja vs UK ting around 88. Aciiiiiiieeeed! :)
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Post by whitebait » Sat May 20, 2006 5:37 am

I thought it was dub with a digiredoo in it for a sec :o

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Post by blip » Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:00 am

Ah, the issue of "authencity". Keep it real. Yawn.

(not that related, but where is my Tackhead album?)

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Post by ramadanman » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:46 am

interesting stuff about the burial mix label thingy

would they be considered digidub? all their stuff i've heard is relatively rigildly in time, and the odd synth popping up

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Post by cozagada » Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:08 pm

whitebait wrote:I thought it was dub with a digiredoo in it for a sec :o
LOL
actually... not a bad idea for a dubstep tune !

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