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Post by batfink » Thu May 25, 2006 4:45 pm

numaestro wrote:horses for courses and all that
Nah, i have liked some breaks in the past but from what my mates play me it sounds like the core of the scene is stagnant. Just like drum and bass.

sure there are some good tunes about, but they aren't the majority in either genre as its much easier to farm out dancefloor nonsense for pillheads. imo. :lol:
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Post by struggle » Thu May 25, 2006 5:00 pm

i've found a few dubstep goodies on planetxusa.com that are listed in the jungle category played @ 45 instead of 33rpms. and they were on sale cause they sounded stupid. i'm not mad. actually almost all their dubstep is on sale for under $9 for the US people.

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Post by eventualdecline » Thu May 25, 2006 5:20 pm

BunZer0 wrote:Man, Jack Dangers is god on earth for me ;-)
Seriously, this guy has not enough recognition... It's a shame !!!!
U can find a lota infos about him here : http://www.brainwashed.com/mbm/ and here : http://www.tinocorp.com/
His famous track "Radio Babylon" is a total breakstep track, using the Amen and a phat sub... Recorded in 1990 !!!!
http://www.brainwashed.com/common/sound ... abylon.mp3
I got a chance to see Meat Beat Manifesto along with Dub Trio last year. Amazing show.

Dubstep reminds me of early drum n bass, as in there's a feeling in the air that anything is possible... and experimentation is limitless. Nu skool breaks reminds me of slowed down modern drum n bass... over produced and unimagineative.

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Post by metalboxproducts » Thu May 25, 2006 5:21 pm

Basicly,some does and some does not. For instance if you slowdown The Fifth colomn By Photek, it would sound a bit like Burial. I'm on The Fifth Colomn thing at the moment. Ill put it up when it's finished. Some of the stuff on Destructive sounds a lot like OLD d&b(stressing old d&b as most contempary d&b does not sound anything like oldschool stuff). I went to a d&b night a bit back and let me tell you, the music was moronic shite. Sounded like happy fucking hardcore.
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Post by bunzer0 » Thu May 25, 2006 5:25 pm

metalboxproducts wrote: Photek
i can also feel a lotta common points.
This man waz abstract, meditative and had serious basses...
So for me it's obvious Photek has inspired Dubstep

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Post by spaceboy » Thu May 25, 2006 6:50 pm

Meat Katie rocks!! Lot49 Records is absolutely legendary.
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Post by crimeandgrunk » Thu May 25, 2006 7:03 pm

disc 2 of Subliminal Sandwich almost never left the cd player in my car for a year. It's one of the reasons I started making music in the first place.

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Post by RubiconMan » Thu May 25, 2006 7:45 pm

struggle wrote:i've found a few dubstep goodies on planetxusa.com that are listed in the jungle category played @ 45 instead of 33rpms. and they were on sale cause they sounded stupid. i'm not mad. actually almost all their dubstep is on sale for under $9 for the US people.
hehe thats good for the diggers i guess.
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Post by intoccabile » Thu May 25, 2006 7:53 pm

Listening to some dubchild bits I find myself thinking...... mhhhhh.....
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Post by shonky » Thu May 25, 2006 9:25 pm

Intoccabile wrote:Listening to some dubchild bits I find myself thinking...... mhhhhh.....
There is that of course, bought 12" a few months ago, but I mean, it's hardly dubstep anyway is it? For some reason I thought it was closer to pre-jungle old skool in terms of tempo and vibe, maybe slightly more imaginative than the nu breaks crew.

Went to a breakbeat night last Christmas and it was utter gash - agree with what's been said before, soulless, unimaginative dross. For some reason I thought that breakbeats were supposed to indicate some sort of funkiness, rather than this plodding shite peddled now.

Oh and Meat Beat Manifesto should be required listening for all prospective dub-steppas - Radio Babylon particularly (heard that this was what influenced Liam howlett to make music)
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Post by testifythelove » Thu May 25, 2006 11:42 pm

drsh wrote:i was driving home with some drumnbass heads yesterday and we were listening to loefah´s root/goat stare and one of the idiots asked me: "what is this? one-armed drummer?"... so, you know ... some people just dont get it!
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Post by corpsey » Fri May 26, 2006 2:50 am

Don't reckon it's true really, dubstep has a different rhythm for me... and a lot more space. Obviously has likenesses to minimalistic dnb/jungle- some of the late 90s stuff on metalheadz for example reminds me of dubstep.

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Post by shonky » Fri May 26, 2006 6:46 am

Think it depends what stuff you're listening to, some dubstep does have that sort of dnb on valium feel but then that seems to have more to do with halfstep, which is just one part of the sound, and even then there's far more variation and space within that section than most dnb.

Don't think it sounds the same as old jungle, but there was a certain freedom and possibilities with the music that's disappeared into formula. The really early jungle incorporated dancehall, techno, hip hop and dub, and to my mind had some real soul when at it's best, which is how I view dubstep.

Seems like a lot of the people that are more open to the sound that I've played dubstep to are from a more IDM and ambient background. Was playing that Breezeblock Burial mix to some friends and they thought it more like Future Sound of London than dnb or even garage.
Hmm....

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Post by metalboxproducts » Fri May 26, 2006 8:01 am

Shonky wrote:Think it depends what stuff you're listening to, some dubstep does have that sort of dnb on valium feel but then that seems to have more to do with halfstep, which is just one part of the sound, and even then there's far more variation and space within that section than most dnb.

Don't think it sounds the same as old jungle, but there was a certain freedom and possibilities with the music that's disappeared into formula. The really early jungle incorporated dancehall, techno, hip hop and dub, and to my mind had some real soul when at it's best, which is how I view dubstep.

Seems like a lot of the people that are more open to the sound that I've played dubstep to are from a more IDM and ambient background. Was playing that Breezeblock Burial mix to some friends and they thought it more like Future Sound of London than dnb or even garage.
Have tou heard Mercof's minimal techno styles? What does IDM mean?
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Post by legba » Fri May 26, 2006 9:02 am

The Nut used the expression 'Upside Down Drum and Bass"... made me laugh it did.

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Post by danolboy » Fri May 26, 2006 10:18 am

To me dubstep is more than just beats and bass though, which sets it apart from alot of dnb, it's a whole vibe that pumps out from your speakers. Slowed down dnb doesn't have that and wasn't created in the first place with that type of vibe in mind so I don't understand how they can be compared.
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Post by dusty » Fri May 26, 2006 10:27 am

IDM = Intelligent Dance Music.

Dubstep reminds me of a mesh of Basic Channel / Rhythm & Sound and the german minimal techno of labels like Force Inc and artists like Pole. I'm into the Jamaican Trojan records dub as well.

I'm a converted DnB head, been listening to DnB since '97, but the excitement has gone, dubstep feels far more exciting now. But then I don't need to preach to the converted.

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Post by forensix (mcr) » Fri May 26, 2006 11:22 am

Dusty wrote:IDM = Intelligent Dance Music.
i hate that expression :x

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Post by metalboxproducts » Fri May 26, 2006 11:27 am

forensix wrote:
Dusty wrote:IDM = Intelligent Dance Music.
i hate that expression :x
Coffee table dubstep?lol
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Post by forensix (mcr) » Fri May 26, 2006 11:28 am

metalboxproducts wrote:
forensix wrote:
Dusty wrote:IDM = Intelligent Dance Music.
i hate that expression :x
Coffee table dubstep?lol
dinner party halfstep

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