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Postby corpsey » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:56 pm

that stuff all you idiots like/the stuff only i like which is the bestest
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Postby __________ » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:57 pm

''good dubstep''
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''bad dubstep''
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Postby badger » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:59 pm

Blip wrote:Easy: clownstep and intelligent.

this
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Postby mr. lizard » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:04 pm

Blip wrote:Easy: clownstep and intelligent.


What a shit statement.
Why has no one answered the question? and just used it as an excuse to show how cool they are?
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Postby nousd » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:22 pm

Usually the appeal of ds for me is hindered by predictability and enhanced by danceability but then you get the rare pieces that transcend their own limitations so that I wonder: how was this envisioned?, let alone made. Like leaps in evolution due to spontaneous mutation, they synthesise what has come before, previously disparate emnations cohere and, for five minutes, there is no dichotomy. :idea:
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Postby mr. lizard » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:32 pm

SD5 wrote:Usually the appeal of ds for me is hindered by predictability and enhanced by danceability but then you get the rare pieces that transcend their own limitations so that I wonder: how was this envisioned?, let alone made. Like leaps in evolution due to spontaneous mutation, they synthesise what has come before, previously disparate emnations cohere and, for five minutes, there is no dichotomy. :idea:
That do?


Fair enough. But where the hell did that come from?!?! :!:
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Postby epithet » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:41 pm

Mr. Lizard wrote:
Blip wrote:Easy: clownstep and intelligent.


What a shit statement.
Why has no one answered the question? and just used it as an excuse to show how cool they are?


ooooh thats a tough one. Might have to get back to you on that -q-
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Postby blip » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:48 pm

Mr. Lizard wrote:
Blip wrote:Easy: clownstep and intelligent.


What a shit statement.
Why has no one answered the question? and just used it as an excuse to show how cool they are?


Mea culpa, I was indeed, quite lamely, trying to show how cool I am (was). I was also in a way saying that it was not worth it to answer the question, but then why not save the bytes? So, mea culpa again.
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Postby djshiva » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:55 pm

dubble wrote:Shit and not shit. Simple.
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Postby stenchman » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:52 pm

i think the question has been a bit misinterpreted, im not trying to split dubstep up i was jus wondering what tunes bridge the light/dark gap
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Postby d-code » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:07 pm

what really is the point of this thread? :lol:
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Postby Jubz » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:14 pm

D-Code wrote:what really is the point of this thread? :lol:

Stench just trying to convince us he's not a spambot.
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Postby hatcha » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:16 pm

dubstep will always b called dubstep and will never b split up in 2 diffrent scenes.this is the magic bout dubstep there so many diffrent sounds in one scene.if any 1 decides 2 change it'it will b us guys that named it so dubstep is dubstep in it will all stay in the same camp thanks none uv this up beat down beat what ever.people r more than welcome 2 go and start there own scene and call it what ever u want but were fine wiv dubstep.peace hatcha :evil:
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Postby ozols man » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:21 pm

Hatcha wrote:dubstep will always b called dubstep and will never b split up in 2 diffrent scenes.this is the magic bout dubstep there so many diffrent sounds in one scene.if any 1 decides 2 change it'it will b us guys that named it so dubstep is dubstep in it will all stay in the same camp thanks none uv this up beat down beat what ever.people r more than welcome 2 go and start there own scene and call it what ever u want but were fine wiv dubstep.peace hatcha :evil:


I SEE THE LIGHT HATCHA I SEE THE LIGHT! GET ME. I FINALLY UNDERSTAND WHY I WAS BORN IN ACTON & DJ GET ME.

STOP SPLITTING THE SCENE. MONEY DOESNT NEED TO EXIST ANYMORE LOL
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Postby sigha » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:48 pm

I dont think Stenchman was talking about splitting the scene as such...
just that some tunes clearly have a dark vibe...some tunes clearly have a light vibe, and i think he was wondering what tunes you would say fall into that magical ethreal 'in-between' territory.

I listen to alot of music, and would definately agree with the 'good/shit theory' and enjoy the variety of influences you can hear in Dubstep. Inspite of this, I reckon its unrealistic to expect people not to catagorise certain sounds into sub-genres... like it or not, its a natural evolution with any music.
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Postby slothrop » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:01 pm

Fixation wrote:
dj phonetic wrote:Dont split it, please

Don't know why people are so fixated on this, to be honest. I know it was shit when drum and bass turned into 748 niche subgenres each with about five records in it and nobody would admit to liking more than about two of them, but I think dubstep's maybe going too far the other way.

I keep coming across people who say they don't like dubstep because they don't like stuff they've heard from (for instance) Rusko and Caspa (or inferior Rusko and Caspa wannabes) and then get really surprised when you play them Peverelist or Pangea or Mala or whatever. Which is shit because although I quite like Rusko and Caspa, their stuff isn't to a lot of people's tastes and loads of people not giving Peverelist a listen because they don't like Cockney Thug is fucking shit from everyone's point of view. Ironically, because noone ever talks about subgenres its actually hard for a lot of people who don't know the scene to get the idea that not all dubstep sounds the same...
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Postby slothrop » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:03 pm

Btw, Mala, Loefah and Kode 9 all transcend pretty much any attempt to divide dubstep into two halves, except possibly the good / shit divide. For me, they're the ones who are capable of being ludicrously deep but slaying the dance at the same time.
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Postby lukesnarl » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:26 pm

well to answer the StenchBot's _ACTUAL_ question:

I'd say, for me, tracks like:

Tes La Rok - Reggae on NOPPA
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Jazzsteppa (pretty much any track)
and
Natural Marcus - Talks Of The Prejudiced (Clouds version)
and so on

sort of have BOTH dark and light elements.

They have the happy, reggae-y or jazz-y parts then go BOOM into squonking dark bassline evil for a while

But unlike the evil from start to finish tracks (eg anything on Suicide Dubs) they then go back again to lighter sounds

and then EVIL again!

It's great - love these tracks for this. Although it does make them hard to stick in one category or the other.
Perhaps they are in both. Which means you have to either buy two copies or cut them in half.... ;)

And just by the by if dubstep were to be split, it would have to be along the Ham and non-Ham lines....
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Postby badger » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:44 pm

lukesnarl wrote:And just by the by if dubstep were to be split, it would have to be along the Ham and non-Ham lines....

YES! Image

i can't believe no one has mentioned this before
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Postby wil blaze » Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:07 pm

lol at the most mis-interpreted thread ever... about 2 people understod the original question...

better luck next time my bovine friend!
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