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Dubplates vs. Vinyl Cuts

Post by boogiemeister » Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:43 pm

Unfortunately I've never had the pleasure of owning dubplates or even holding one in my hands, so maybe some of you can elaborate on this topic a bit. Is there a difference between dubplates and cut vinyl records (like those Vestax vinyl cutter ones) that are offered by lots of companies. Apparently the cut vinyl is said to last as long a regularly pressed record, so it seems like the better solution. Are dubplates cut on the same machines as the blank vinyl records?

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Re: Dubplates vs. Vinyl Cuts

Post by pidge » Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:53 pm

DJ Pinch wrote:Of all the formats available at Dub Studio, which is your favorite and why?
I used to get a lot of the plastic plates done when I started out, mainly attracted to the fact that they don't wear out. They're also more durable than the acetates when cueing up the record (they don't 'jump' on the first beat) and they seem to sound brighter too. However, they lack the bass warmth of the acetates and also some of the compression factor that acetates have. Sometimes I struggle with the acetates but overall I think they're worth the effort for the sound alone. The 12's have a bit more room so I think the 12" acetate is my favourite weapon of choice! Even though it's only a matter of time before I put my back out carrying them around!!
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Re: Dubplates vs. Vinyl Cuts

Post by nedklic » Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:53 pm

boogs wrote:Unfortunately I've never had the pleasure of owning dubplates or even holding one in my hands, so maybe some of you can elaborate on this topic a bit. Is there a difference between dubplates and cut vinyl records (like those Vestax vinyl cutter ones) that are offered by lots of companies. Apparently the cut vinyl is said to last as long a regularly pressed record, so it seems like the better solution. Are dubplates cut on the same machines as the blank vinyl records?

Seen this place refernced a few times on here -

http://www.dubstudio.co.uk/content/view/20/82/

I'd like to know some more about this as well if anyone can help? Is there any noticeable difference in sound quality between acetate and vinyl?
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Post by Littlefoot » Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:58 pm

with the right engineer Vinyl dubplates can sound brilliant

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Post by distinction » Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:41 pm

Ive cut shit loads of Dubs at Dub Studio with Henry & the service he provides is absolutely spot on, I couldnt fault him or what he does in the slightest. His dubs sound sick too! I would deffo reccommend him!

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Post by bone loc » Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:39 pm

i havent bought any dubstep vinyl yet, but i still buy alot of dnb from people who have been pressing records too long to serve me the bullshit ive been gettin. acetate or vinyl, seems like nobody knows how to cut records anymore. bad mixdowns x bad vinyl engineer combos make me hateful, most shit just sounds dark and muddy. whoever quarantine and dnaudio get their vinyl from has had a broken cutter head for like 4 or 5 years now, ever since jump gate, dnaudio 001 i believe.
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Post by Lurka » Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:45 pm

dubstudio.co.uk is the one! henry is a proppa gent! and the dubs always sound CRISP! he does acetate as well!! which is what i cut as it sounds twice as nice! and stinks out ure record box like nothing else!!! :D :D :D :D

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Post by spiro » Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:14 pm

Distinction wrote:Ive cut shit loads of Dubs at Dub Studio with Henry & the service he provides is absolutely spot on, I couldnt fault him or what he does in the slightest. His dubs sound sick too! I would deffo reccommend him!

Large up Henry!
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and for the skratching massive . . . the vinyl cuts actually endure a bit of this too!
Some of the 10"s from Henry sounds amazing!

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Post by d-miz3 » Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:23 pm

dubstudio is big.always get my dubs from there,used to get 10"s cut but get 12"s done now.they got a better sound to em i think

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Post by Shift Recordings » Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:46 pm

bone loc wrote:i havent bought any dubstep vinyl yet, but i still buy alot of dnb from people who have been pressing records too long to serve me the bullshit ive been gettin. acetate or vinyl, seems like nobody knows how to cut records anymore. bad mixdowns x bad vinyl engineer combos make me hateful, most shit just sounds dark and muddy. whoever quarantine and dnaudio get their vinyl from has had a broken cutter head for like 4 or 5 years now, ever since jump gate, dnaudio 001 i believe.
Could just be a weak stamper though...

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Post by Lurka » Thu Dec 25, 2008 8:32 pm

come on people lets talk more about dubplates!!! not enough threads on this forum discussing them! i love the smell of acetate a bit too much! :D

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Post by renegatus » Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:16 pm

trigga!!! wrote:come on people lets talk more about dubplates!!! not enough threads on this forum discussing them! i love the smell of acetate a bit too much! :D
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Post by l que » Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:41 pm

vinyl cut or acetate both sound 100000000000 times better than serato, dub studio is getting mad love and rightly so, ive heard the vinyl cuts and they sound crisp, warm bass, clean drums. havent heard the acetates yet though
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Post by Littlefoot » Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:17 pm

L Que wrote:vinyl cut or acetate both sound 100000000000 times better than serato, dub studio is getting mad love and rightly so, ive heard the vinyl cuts and they sound crisp, warm bass, clean drums. havent heard the acetates yet though
this is it ^

plus if you get Transition or Dub Studio to do some mastering for the dub, not a proffesional master but come on these guys master these kinda tunes day in day out and dont fuck about, then your tune will sound SO MUCH better than the DJ before who was playing his mates unmastered 320s. believe.

it's also all about quality control, anyone can make a tune, but not everyone has the confidence to spend 30 quid on one copy of it.
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Post by l que » Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:16 am

Joe C wrote:
L Que wrote:vinyl cut or acetate both sound 100000000000 times better than serato, dub studio is getting mad love and rightly so, ive heard the vinyl cuts and they sound crisp, warm bass, clean drums. havent heard the acetates yet though
this is it ^

plus if you get Transition or Dub Studio to do some mastering for the dub, not a proffesional master but come on these guys master these kinda tunes day in day out and dont fuck about, then your tune will sound SO MUCH better than the DJ before who was playing his mates unmastered 320s. believe.

it's also all about quality control, anyone can make a tune, but not everyone has the confidence to spend 30 quid on one copy of it.
amen to that, there is nothing worse than some dj setting up serato while you are playin and then playing their brittle sounding 320s of below standard tunes from boring producers, but enough whinging and ranting.

respect to all those taking the time and spending the money to do music properly. ie: cut dubs, get their tunes mastered and generally just being professional.....UPZ




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Post by jrj2020 » Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:16 am

L Que wrote:respect to all those taking the time and spending the money to do music properly. ie: cut dubs, get their tunes mastered and generally just being professional.....UPZ
I dont think this is fair at all. To say that Serato/Cd's isnt "doing it properly" is ridiculous. For one the cost of getting single tunes pressed is prohibitive - £25 for a one sided plate at dubstudio. Now i've used dubstudio once and the service was fantastic, the press superb and generally its great, but at that cost theres no WAY I could get everything I wanted pressed! Also carrying around an acetate or even a vinyl cut compared to a laptop or some cds is needless effort, especially if you're on the circuit nationally/internationally (not quite there myself yet :lol: )... Whats most important at the end of the day, that a tune tear up the dancefloor, or that it be played at the highest possible quality?
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Post by renegatus » Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:00 am

jrj2020 wrote:Whats most important at the end of the day, that a tune tear up the dancefloor, or that it be played at the highest possible quality?
They're not mutually exclusive, at least in my opinion.
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Post by jrj2020 » Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:11 am

Renegatus wrote:
jrj2020 wrote:Whats most important at the end of the day, that a tune tear up the dancefloor, or that it be played at the highest possible quality?
They're not mutually exclusive, at least in my opinion.
my point exactly!
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Post by Littlefoot » Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:22 pm

jrj2020 wrote:
Renegatus wrote:
jrj2020 wrote:Whats most important at the end of the day, that a tune tear up the dancefloor, or that it be played at the highest possible quality?
They're not mutually exclusive, at least in my opinion.
my point exactly!
innit!!!!!!!

i sware its only since the ketted up students came in that people started saying this too

someone in a pub actually tried to talk me out of cutting dubs the other day .. sigh
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Post by Lurka » Fri Dec 26, 2008 4:53 pm

got no problem with people using serato/cds etc, but it aint for me! got no problem carrying a record bag! totally worth it! nothing better than a fresh dub imo! just hate when some djs cant understand why you would cut and berate you for doing so! whilst they play off of ableton and twiddle the flange about with their midi controller! ahahha makes me laugh! :D

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