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Postby RubiconMan » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:50 pm

critical sound system wrote:The Esperanza Soundsystem from freibourg told me people are starting playing dubstep on the island.

esperanza were kind enuff to send some of our 140 riddims to get vocaled in JA.
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Postby elementalism » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:35 pm

Godflesh Fiend wrote:I'd be really surprised if Dubstep didn't start making it's presence felt in Jamaica. Jamaica was the king of bass with it's Dub & Reggae but that kind of slipped away with Dancehall which as far as I've heard is lacking in the bass department. I don't like Dancehall at all due to the lack of bass so I think a fusion of Dubstep & Dancehall would be kick ass! I'm sure that fusion is already happening here in the UK so maybe it's time some producers went for a holiday in Jamaica and hooked up with some Dancehall stars.


Erm...

You don't really know what you're talking about there, do you? No bass? LOL! Jamaica showed you what bass could really do, don't make such stupid comments.

My dad is Jamaican and loves dubstep. He also got me into Jungle when I was a kid, so I reckon that a good amount of Jamaicans can find common ground within dubstep. I was at my mate's yard and we were having a little mix and I think I put Dally on by Hijak and he was bubbling! Certain tracks would definitely take off over there, but it depends what sort of angle you come in from. Music is universal, though - remember that!

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Postby godflesh fiend » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:07 pm

Elementalism wrote:
Godflesh Fiend wrote:I'd be really surprised if Dubstep didn't start making it's presence felt in Jamaica. Jamaica was the king of bass with it's Dub & Reggae but that kind of slipped away with Dancehall which as far as I've heard is lacking in the bass department. I don't like Dancehall at all due to the lack of bass so I think a fusion of Dubstep & Dancehall would be kick ass! I'm sure that fusion is already happening here in the UK so maybe it's time some producers went for a holiday in Jamaica and hooked up with some Dancehall stars.


Erm...

You don't really know what you're talking about there, do you? No bass? LOL! Jamaica showed you what bass could really do, don't make such stupid comments.

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Easy tiger!

I've been collecting Ska/Rocksteady/Reggae & Dub for almost 20yrs so I'm well aware that the most beautiful and bass heavy music comes from Jamaica. Regardless I believe Dancehall is piss-weak in the bass department. That and the fact the lyrics tend to be beating of the chest macho pish is the reason I dislike Dancehall. I've heard loads of Dancehall and it really does nothing for me......especially after listening to a Heptones, Burning Spear or Tubby production.

I've listened numerous times to the Dancehall acts mentioned so far and like I said earlier it does nothing for me. If you have particular songs from Dancehall that kick major ass in the bass and lyric/vocal department paste me some links and I'll be more than happy to give them a listen.
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Postby werd2jah » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:42 pm

/\ /\ to a certain degree i know wha yu talkin bout, dancehall seems to be goin down the path of u.s. hip hop

used to be bar and pub musik, now its jus club musik

but there are some artists doin their thing still

ward 21

general degree

vybze cartel has a few gems

dr. evil is witty/funny as shit

bounty killer

baby cham

lexxus

there alot but i jus cant name em off the top of my head

yu gotta really get a few mixtapes and try an find the good out the bad

some riddims havent been on the bass-y side, but again its all lyrically driven and no artist is gonna strain and fight over the bass when they do shows and such plus da riddims are gettin more and more recycled
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Postby human? » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:56 pm

Hops wrote:
L Que wrote:did jungle ever get played in JA?

remarc, kemet, congo natty etc


interesting question...

Steelie & Clevie produced at least one jungle riddim, Ninjaman's Donette i think...as far as i know this was the only jungle tune to come out of JA..


backyard riddim was pretty much jungle... from like 1998...

lee perry & mad professor both put out jungle albums on ariwa... but they may have been produced in the uk, i dunno...

alot of jungle tunes in like 94 - 95 werent remixes, original voicings.. same for alot of the new school ragga jungle from like 2003 onwards..

either way, the original JUNGLISTS come from yard..


and yeh, yall really need to check the riddims i mentioned earlier.

war trumpet is dubstep.

and merge is 140, and seriously one of my favorites from last year, ALL the tunes on it are really fresh...

tons of new interesting dancehall comin out, new artists, new styles, dont sleep.
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Postby godflesh fiend » Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:15 pm

Ragga Twins kicked ass.

Infact they're playing here in a few weeks with Aquasky.
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Postby Pi-Krust » Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:04 pm

Godflesh Fiend wrote:
Elementalism wrote:
Godflesh Fiend wrote:I'd be really surprised if Dubstep didn't start making it's presence felt in Jamaica. Jamaica was the king of bass with it's Dub & Reggae but that kind of slipped away with Dancehall which as far as I've heard is lacking in the bass department. I don't like Dancehall at all due to the lack of bass so I think a fusion of Dubstep & Dancehall would be kick ass! I'm sure that fusion is already happening here in the UK so maybe it's time some producers went for a holiday in Jamaica and hooked up with some Dancehall stars.


Erm...

You don't really know what you're talking about there, do you? No bass? LOL! Jamaica showed you what bass could really do, don't make such stupid comments.

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Easy tiger!

I've been collecting Ska/Rocksteady/Reggae & Dub for almost 20yrs so I'm well aware that the most beautiful and bass heavy music comes from Jamaica. Regardless I believe Dancehall is piss-weak in the bass department. That and the fact the lyrics tend to be beating of the chest macho pish is the reason I dislike Dancehall. I've heard loads of Dancehall and it really does nothing for me......especially after listening to a Heptones, Burning Spear or Tubby production.

I've listened numerous times to the Dancehall acts mentioned so far and like I said earlier it does nothing for me. If you have particular songs from Dancehall that kick major ass in the bass and lyric/vocal department paste me some links and I'll be more than happy to give them a listen.

Have to largely agree with you here.most current dancehall does nothing for me I'm afraid.It's just too over produced/slick and a bit cheesy imao.The original 80's digital dancehall kicks ass though,the productions were much rawer and more stripped down then. There was a great Digital Dancehall primer in last August's Wire mag.if I can find it it I might scan it in and upload it.Im also fed up all the with the "batty boy fi dead,etc" ish as week,get over it people.
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Postby human? » Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:23 pm

ugh.

yall know how many riddims come out every year?

and how many different tracks are on each riddim?

listen, if you blanketly dismiss dancehall, you are only gonna miss out... the dancehall will still get made, the good & the bad, but you will just not hear it...

search out good music, share when you find dope stuff, but genre wide slagging is obnoxious and just tells me you arent listening.

has anyone listened to the merge riddim yet?
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Postby elementalism » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:44 pm

human? wrote:ugh.

yall know how many riddims come out every year?

and how many different tracks are on each riddim?

listen, if you blanketly dismiss dancehall, you are only gonna miss out... the dancehall will still get made, the good & the bad, but you will just not hear it...

search out good music, share when you find dope stuff, but genre wide slagging is obnoxious and just tells me you arent listening.

has anyone listened to the merge riddim yet?


Exactly my point.
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Postby godflesh fiend » Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:15 am

human? wrote:ugh.

yall know how many riddims come out every year?

and how many different tracks are on each riddim?

listen, if you blanketly dismiss dancehall, you are only gonna miss out... the dancehall will still get made, the good & the bad, but you will just not hear it...

search out good music, share when you find dope stuff, but genre wide slagging is obnoxious and just tells me you arent listening.

has anyone listened to the merge riddim yet?


I'm sure there is good Dancehall......and I'd be happy to have it come to me easily......but I'm afraid it's a type of music I'm not going to dig for when I've heard so much of it already to decide it isn't my cup of tea......and I really have tried over the years to get into it believe it or not.

By the way..... I kind of get your blanketly genre dismissing......but at the same time I think ALL Trance music sucks.
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Postby silkie » Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:59 am

i was in jamaica in september and i played my cus some dubstep and he was like yeh i like it but wheres the vocals. and i think thats the point really. dub reggae isnt even that known to the average jamaican. dub was an export mainly.
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Postby spooKs » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:34 am

SILKIE wrote:i was in jamaica in september and i played my cus some dubstep and he was like yeh i like it but wheres the vocals. and i think thats the point really. dub reggae isnt even that known to the average jamaican. dub was an export mainly.


You're an absolute badman!! Sorry, it's not relevant, but I've never had a chance to say that before... :D

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Postby promo » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:35 am

boomnoise wrote:
DJ Vision wrote:i think dubstep is a bit intense for the music scene down there


yeah way too intense

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pGa2AEOxbo

Right seeya everyone ... I'm off to Jamaica. :o
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Postby Juan BassHead » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:51 am

we are putting out a tune w/ original vocals by Jamaican dancehall mc Einstein; Noah D on the buttons

check it out @ www.bassheadmusic.com

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Postby taal mala » Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:03 am

Abs wrote:
DJ Vision wrote:you wont see people shooting flames everywhere & pumping towels at your average dubstep night.



You should come to Vancouver and see it.
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Postby ndeezy » Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:44 am

Burn wrote:we are putting out a tune w/ original vocals by Jamaican dancehall mc Einstein; Noah D on the buttons

check it out @ www.bassheadmusic.com

I LOVE dancehall



i fucking LOOOOOVVVEEEE dancehall :D
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Postby l que » Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:58 am

if you check the dancehall tunes from the early 1990s you can hear a good heavy bassline, im talking cutty ranks, shabba ranks style 1991- 3 kinda ting
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Postby radic » Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:30 pm

£10 Bag wrote:well overdue though! there's not enough DUBstep if you ask me. too much dubSTEP!


yess we love that 70s dub style
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Postby young soundman » Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:38 pm

ndeezy wrote:
Burn wrote:we are putting out a tune w/ original vocals by Jamaican dancehall mc Einstein; Noah D on the buttons

check it out @ www.bassheadmusic.com

I LOVE dancehall



i fucking LOOOOOVVVEEEE dancehall :D
people think of dancehall as bashment now adays...and thats what its slowly turning into with every1 talkin about intercoursing a girl from behind in the dance.
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Postby faustus » Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:44 pm

nuff rubbish being talked in this thread...

if dancehalls like any uk music its grime, nothing to do with dubstep
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