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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by Soiree » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:23 am

I LOVE VINYL! The KP3 is an awesome effects modulator and sampler for analog frequencies...
Made this last night, maybe I'll post a video someday. So I can watch my mistakes!
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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by kixo » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:59 am

DustBrigade wrote:@Kixo

Nice one! Thank you for making that video, it was interesting. The first mixes felt solid. I didnt like the two that you dropped straight in so much, altho you made the last one very interesting by getting the two tunes together very nicely!
I have alot to learn from people like you.

Keep it up! :)
yeah i agree with you, the first mix and the last mix are the bests. I did some mistakes in the middle part but i am too lazy to do it again :D
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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by dublerium » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:10 pm

Harry Sword wrote:
kixo wrote:Hi there, i mix vinyl only and i can't even think of doing it differently,
check my last mix: ATTACK OF THE SONIC OCTOPUS

http://www.mixcloud.com/kixo/attack-of-the-sonic-octopus/

If any of you have advices or secret tips for mixing vinyl better, share it!

for exemple, do you drop the vinyl directly in the mix ( you know back n forward in tempo and drop) or do you drop it in the headphone and then introduce it in the mix via faders (pretty hard to explain this in english for me :) )?
OK, here are some tips. There is no right or wrong, just do what works for you, but this is what works for me.

I always que a track up in the headphones first to ensure it is the correct speed, and cross reference it with the outgoing tune. I never just drop a track straight in, as if it is out of time, your gonna be correcting it in the mix, in real time, with both faders up.

I try never to touch a record once in the mix, if you can avoid it, always use the pitch chase using the pitch shifters to slow up/down. Much smoother.

Watch your eq's. As you bring a track in, the eq's on an incoming track should be brought up gradually. Likewise, the eq's on an outgoing track can be brought down gradually.


Like you said it's up to you, I do whatever feels good at the time, i've gotten to the point where I can comfortably bring tracks straight in, even if the are a little off can correct that no trouble at all. Hard to give advice, it's more about finding your own natural style rather than doing what someone else is suited too.

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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by AxeD » Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:18 pm

Mostly vinyl + Traktor. Play some old techno vinyls from time to time but the crackling gets
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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by agus69 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:13 pm

2 x technic 1200's and a korg kaoss mixer (the old school one). Plus over 5000 records. (true story!) I record it all into soundtrack pro and the rest is aural pleasure :z:

Here's my latest.

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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by kixo » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:45 am

5000 records ?! nice collection!
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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by pearsall » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:26 am

all my mixes are done using nothing but vinyl:

http://sonicrampage.org/blog/?page_id=407 :)
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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by kixo » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:43 am

http://www.mixcloud.com/kixo/beyond-the-abyss/

my last vinyl only mix
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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by Mr_Frost » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:36 pm

dublerium wrote:
Harry Sword wrote:
kixo wrote:Hi there, i mix vinyl only and i can't even think of doing it differently,
check my last mix: ATTACK OF THE SONIC OCTOPUS

http://www.mixcloud.com/kixo/attack-of-the-sonic-octopus/

If any of you have advices or secret tips for mixing vinyl better, share it!

for exemple, do you drop the vinyl directly in the mix ( you know back n forward in tempo and drop) or do you drop it in the headphone and then introduce it in the mix via faders (pretty hard to explain this in english for me :) )?
OK, here are some tips. There is no right or wrong, just do what works for you, but this is what works for me.

I always que a track up in the headphones first to ensure it is the correct speed, and cross reference it with the outgoing tune. I never just drop a track straight in, as if it is out of time, your gonna be correcting it in the mix, in real time, with both faders up.

I try never to touch a record once in the mix, if you can avoid it, always use the pitch chase using the pitch shifters to slow up/down. Much smoother.

Watch your eq's. As you bring a track in, the eq's on an incoming track should be brought up gradually. Likewise, the eq's on an outgoing track can be brought down gradually.


Like you said it's up to you, I do whatever feels good at the time, i've gotten to the point where I can comfortably bring tracks straight in, even if the are a little off can correct that no trouble at all. Hard to give advice, it's more about finding your own natural style rather than doing what someone else is suited too.
like everyone else has said...it's all about what works for you. here is some of my approach. for me it depends on the track. but the first thing i always do unless i know the tracks to be dead matches is cue the track in my headphones and give it a listen for 4 or 8 bars to make sure i'm on time. with some tracks i may just bring the faders/eq in from here, but more often than not i rewind the track to the cue point and drop the vinyl directly into the mix at the appropriate spot. from years of mixing hip hop i'm pretty in the habit of stabbing the one beat and dropping on time as i cut in the fader.

as for keeping time/beat matched i sometimes find it easier to get it close enough rather than dead perfect. you can waste a lot of time in the mix trying to get a track to stay in time for 32 bars. rather i'm happy to get my track to the point where it is just slightly off beat after 8 bars. what's nice about this is that as soon as the beat starts to slip you know exactly which record to nudge/pinch without thinking. on the other hand when you're getting the tracks super precise you don't know which record is playing a little faster so as the beat starts slipping your brain hears the difference but then your mind has to process which of the two tracks is actually the one you want to adjust and by then it's slipped even more.

and recently the biggest thing for me after coming back to real vinyl after mixing control vinyl with serato for a year, is set yourself up for success. i have all my records labeled on the sleeve with record speed 33/45 and bpm. on the records themselves i put a sticker on the label for the cue point and again write the speed of the record/bpm. this way i can very quickly dig through the crates, find what i want, where i want to cue and how much to adjust the pitch before i have even had to listen to my headphones.

also since there is no digital readout to tell you the bpm on your technics as your adjusting the pitch i made myself a quick reference chart for change in bpm with change in pitch. link below for my bpm spreadsheet if anyone is curious.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... utput=html

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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by Mr_Frost » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:42 pm

i made this mix yesterday afternoon. two x technics >> rane ttm 56 recorded to audacity. it's not perfect, but it's worth a listen. fwiw worth this stuff in the 135 range i find much more of a challenge to mix than your regular ole 140 snare on the 3 halfstep track.

http://mixcrate.com/mix/76983/Mr-Frost-Dusty-Needle-Mix

Mr. Frost - Dusty Needle Mix

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S_X - Wooo
Ramadanman - Glut
Boddika - Electron
Unknown - Sicko Cell
Visionist - Mr. 67
Girl Unit - IRL
Girl Unit - Ride it Every Time
Mount Kimbie - Sketch on Glass
Damu - 2010
Jamie Woon - Night Air (Ramadanman Refix)

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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by kixo » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:19 am

Mr_Frost wrote:
like everyone else has said...it's all about what works for you. here is some of my approach. for me it depends on the track. but the first thing i always do unless i know the tracks to be dead matches is cue the track in my headphones and give it a listen for 4 or 8 bars to make sure i'm on time. with some tracks i may just bring the faders/eq in from here, but more often than not i rewind the track to the cue point and drop the vinyl directly into the mix at the appropriate spot. from years of mixing hip hop i'm pretty in the habit of stabbing the one beat and dropping on time as i cut in the fader.

as for keeping time/beat matched i sometimes find it easier to get it close enough rather than dead perfect. you can waste a lot of time in the mix trying to get a track to stay in time for 32 bars. rather i'm happy to get my track to the point where it is just slightly off beat after 8 bars. what's nice about this is that as soon as the beat starts to slip you know exactly which record to nudge/pinch without thinking. on the other hand when you're getting the tracks super precise you don't know which record is playing a little faster so as the beat starts slipping your brain hears the difference but then your mind has to process which of the two tracks is actually the one you want to adjust and by then it's slipped even more.

and recently the biggest thing for me after coming back to real vinyl after mixing control vinyl with serato for a year, is set yourself up for success. i have all my records labeled on the sleeve with record speed 33/45 and bpm. on the records themselves i put a sticker on the label for the cue point and again write the speed of the record/bpm. this way i can very quickly dig through the crates, find what i want, where i want to cue and how much to adjust the pitch before i have even had to listen to my headphones.

also since there is no digital readout to tell you the bpm on your technics as your adjusting the pitch i made myself a quick reference chart for change in bpm with change in pitch. link below for my bpm spreadsheet if anyone is curious.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... utput=html
very interesting post, you wrote about most of the things i was wandering about,

to introduce a new track, as you , i prefer dropping the vinyl directly in the mix at the cue point i like, it's maybe more risky but i think it allows you to introduce a track more progressivly as you can use more of the intro

for keeping the beat matched, i find it particularly hard when you're in a middle of a mix and when the tracks are at the same levels each, (especially when the tracks are similar)

fot the BPM i think i'll do the same as you (marking the vinyls), it's maybe a bit a "mathematic" way to mix (with the spreadsheet and all) but it sure can help you setting the pitch even before listening to the track in the headphones.
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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by kixo » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:29 am

Mr_Frost wrote:i made this mix yesterday afternoon. two x technics >> rane ttm 56 recorded to audacity. it's not perfect, but it's worth a listen. fwiw worth this stuff in the 135 range i find much more of a challenge to mix than your regular ole 140 snare on the 3 halfstep track.

http://mixcrate.com/mix/76983/Mr-Frost-Dusty-Needle-Mix

Mr. Frost - Dusty Needle Mix

Image

S_X - Wooo
Ramadanman - Glut
Boddika - Electron
Unknown - Sicko Cell
Visionist - Mr. 67
Girl Unit - IRL
Girl Unit - Ride it Every Time
Mount Kimbie - Sketch on Glass
Damu - 2010
Jamie Woon - Night Air (Ramadanman Refix)

nice one, you didn't pick easy tracks to mix!
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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by Mexter » Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:47 am

my mix i made last week

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Tracklist: (VINYL ONLY)

Lurka - Tempted
Cymatic - Electric Church
Vivek - The Big Bang
Kryptic Minds - Six Degrees
Cyrus - Looking Back
Lx One - Give it up
Headhunter - Ginneys
Headhunter - What You Got
DJ Madd - New Reality
Sukh Knight & Shandy - Look At
DJ Madd - Battle
>>>>J Kenzo - Between Two Worlds
DJ Madd - Pitch Black
TMSV - Back Off
El-B - Think ur Greezy
Silkie - Taxi Me Get
Tunnidge - Face Melt
Distance - Malice
L-Wiz - Who Am I
Icicle - Breathing Again
Seven & Elvee - Crime Doesn't Pay
Tunnidge - Ghost Dance
Seven - Cerebral
Goth Trad - The Clown
Distance - Cyclops
VINYL ONLY!

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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by Mr_Frost » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:57 pm

kixo wrote:

for keeping the beat matched, i find it particularly hard when you're in a middle of a mix and when the tracks are at the same levels each, (especially when the tracks are similar)

fot the BPM i think i'll do the same as you (marking the vinyls), it's maybe a bit a "mathematic" way to mix (with the spreadsheet and all) but it sure can help you setting the pitch even before listening to the track in the headphones.

i hear you there. i hate that feeling when you can hear the beat slipping and your mind doesn't know which it is. that's why i was saying earlier i don't mind if one record is playing just a tiny bit fast(i prefer/am more accurate slowing records then nudging them faster). that way as soon as i detect the beat starting to slip, give the spindle a little pinch and slow it down. you can here me do it on the first few minutes of the mix i made. you can here glut getting ahead of woo in a few places and then it slips back in time i probably had it a little two fast because i was pinching the spindle a littl more than i like. it's not really noticeable to an untrained ear and in a live setting would be hard to catch, but with repeated listens it would eventually stand out. the other thing to do is just have one channel playing on the cue of your headphones and one ear listening to the mix. that should make it easier to figure out which beat needs adjusting.

as for that bpm spreadsheet it's not like something i have taped to my mixer. i was just bored on day and wanted to see if i could remember how to write formulas on a spreadsheet. it's more something i would look at when i'm putting a bunch of different tunes together i want to mix of different tempos. you can quickly see if songs will be able to overlap. knowing the tempo of your records is a big help, it kind of sucks trying to mix in a record for an entire song only to realize no matter how much you adjust the pitch it will never match up.

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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by Forensics » Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:50 pm

An old one:

FORENSICS - Sub FM 21.05.06

01 Loefah - Horrorshow [DMZ]
02 Omen - Aphrodite [Tectonic]
03 Burial - South London Boroughs [Hyperdub]
04 Kode9 - Swarm [Rephlex]
05 D1 - Degrees [Tempa]
06 D1 - Steamroller [Soulja]
07 Omen - Frontline [Tectonic]
08 Mala - Ancient Memories [DMZ]
09 Skream - Rottan [Tempa]
10 Distance - Nomad [Hotflush]
11 Vex'd - Bombardment of Saturn [Planet Mu]
12 Search & Destroy - Anger [Hotflush]
13 Toasty - Guesswork [Storming]
14 Vex'd - Lion VIP [Planet Mu]
15 Eric H - The Lights [Hotflush]
16 Dub Child - Take me [Storming]
17 Digital Mystikz - B [DMZ]
18 Distance - Fallen [Boka]
19 Luke Envoy - Honour Kill [Hotflush]
20 MRK1 - Stargate 92 [Storming]
21 Distance - Shiverz [Sting]
22 Search & Destroy - Food Chain [Texture]
23 Atki2 - Sweaty Dub [Baked Goods]

http://postbocks.com/audio/download/225 ... _05_06.mp3

And a not-so-old one:

FORENSICS - Vinyl Mix [November 2010]

01 : Forensics - Endless, Wrexile remix [Eight:FX]
02 : A Bridge Far Away - Killerbees, Fused Forces remix [Promo]
03 : A Bridge Far Away - Drift ft. Indi Kaur, Demon remix [Promo]
04 : Forensics - Endgame, DZ remix [DubKraft]
05 : Various Production - Hater [XL]
06 : Congo Natty - Junglist, Forensics remix [Promo]
07 : Forensics - Endgame, R.Demon remix [DubKraft]
08 : RSD - Jah way [Punch Drunk]
08 : Atki2 - Dragonfly [Terminal Dusk]
10 : D1 - Bamboo [Road]
11 : Plastician - Japan [Terrorhythm]
12 : Forensics - Endgame, Two Oh One remix [DubKraft]
13 : Bazrah - Colours [Dubtek]
14 : Veil - Eat the world [Test Conditions]
15 : Digital Mystikz - Haunted [DMZ]
16 : RSD - Murderation [White Label]
17 : Coki - Officer [DMZ]
18 : D1 - Degrees [Tempa]
19 : Kryptic Minds - Six degrees [Swamp 81]
20 : Ruckspin & Planas - The nature of it
ft. Foreign Beggars & Virus Syndicate [Ranking]

http://postbocks.com/audio/download/771 ... er2010.mp3

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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by Mr_Frost » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:10 am

nice job with the video...i may have to make one of these...what are using just the built in software?
kixo wrote:Here is a vinyl only videomix i did today

only classics:

Tracklist:
Seven, Dial up
Digital mystikz, Eyez
Vivek, Roots
Kryptic minds, The fifth
Benton, Smash that badger



feel free to comment!

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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by Mr_Frost » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:11 am



just a short video of a transition between two hip hop songs. i need to figure out to set up the computer to record better.

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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by kixo » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:55 am

Mr_Frost wrote:nice job with the video...i may have to make one of these...what are using just the built in software?
kixo wrote:Here is a vinyl only videomix i did today

only classics:

Tracklist:
Seven, Dial up
Digital mystikz, Eyez
Vivek, Roots
Kryptic minds, The fifth
Benton, Smash that badger



feel free to comment!
thanks, i record the sound directly from the mixer and i get the video from a camera, then i synchronize the two with a very simple software,
to do it easily i move the record over a beat at the beginning of the mix so i can synchronize sound and video easily then i cut that part out
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Re: vinyl mixes???

Post by whø » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:12 pm

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Strago & Snooks - Infect
James Blake - Pan
Toasty - Cold Blooded
Monkeysteaks - Lighthouse Dub (Pinch Remix)
Pinch - Cave Dream
Appleblim - Fear
Milanese - Double Face (feat. Kate Kestrel)
Kion - Rocka
Pinch - Swish
Mathhead - Stagger Dub
Search & Destroy - Candyfloss (Loefah Remix)
Scarecrow - Taken

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