Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP

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Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP

Post by bassinine » Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:27 pm

made a pretty good koan / noisia sounding Reese in my sig.

was reallly simple too. 3 saws and white noise, two band reject filters, disto, eq and side chaining. then just cutting that up. No resampling and very light on effects other than distortion.

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Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP

Post by mthrfnk » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:15 pm

Some people dislike resampling, others praise it loads... personally I think it's great if done right - I usually do it in combination with granulization and have made some really cool sounds.

The basses in these were made using both granulization and resampling, resampling specifically helped on the 3rd track to make the reeses more growly:
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Post by BLASKO » Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:58 pm

^^^^ wow man, i would love to know how you made the reese on your second song there(out of time wip), exactly what i have been trying to create

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Post by mthrfnk » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:18 pm

BLASKO wrote:^^^^ wow man, i would love to know how you made the reese on your second song there(out of time wip), exactly what i have been trying to create
All of them come from a single reese I made (which is like 5 seconds long), I resampled/resynthisised in IL Harmor and then loaded into FL Granulizer. All the effects - like moving, pitching up/down and growly bits come from automating the granulization parameters. On the final mixer channel I think I had maybe some slight distortion, maybe some compression and some tight reverb on the high end to make it more boomy.
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Post by BLASKO » Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:44 pm

thanks man, ive been playing around with harmor alot lately, ill deff have to try out the granulizer more i guess hahaha thanks man

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Post by mthrfnk » Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:56 pm

BLASKO wrote:thanks man, ive been playing around with harmor alot lately, ill deff have to try out the granulizer more i guess hahaha thanks man
Check out SeamlessR's tutorials on youtube for some good Harmor tuts.

As for granulisation a good start is turn hold, attack and grain spacing knobs all the way to the left and turn the final knob to a few percent to the right of the center (which is 0%) and turn/automate that knob very slightly around that position. Obviously tweak the others to find cool sounds - but thats pretty much where I start from. The pan/stereo seperation knob is also a good one to automate.

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Post by BLASKO » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:27 pm

ahahah yeah, ive been watchin seamless's videos great stuff!! thanks dude

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Post by enjarcher » Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:26 am

TBH, resampling generally isn't necessary (not in my experience anyway), sometimes some chopping up but that's all.
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Post by SMOR3S » Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:58 am

i11icit wrote:Forgive me in advance if this is an amateurish question but what do you mean by modulating the sound using Massive? Do you mean taking audio and running it through Massive and using Massives filters / LFOs / FX to modulate the sound?

To my knowledge this isn't possible???
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Post by Sinergy » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:13 am

So....

KTN uses reason and whats in reason to create a lot of those sounds

plesk's tune is out of malstrom, in reason.

If you don't have reason, what is a good alternative? I feel like so much stuff is exclusive to reason, a lot of these really awesome sounds that people ask about end up being only able to make in reason...
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Post by smile » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:38 am

Sinergy wrote:If you don't have reason, what is a good alternative? I feel like so much stuff is exclusive to reason, a lot of these really awesome sounds that people ask about end up being only able to make in reason...
How about you show me one sound that you need reason to recreate and i will buy it for you

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Post by mthrfnk » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:09 am

KTN uses Massive. A lot.
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Post by enjarcher » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:12 pm

Yeah, KTN doesn't use reason anymore, not since he started using these crazy sounds anyway. Massive's definitely the way to go. On the other hand, you can get some great results by using complex eq/filter processing on reeses (which is what Noisia, Skrillex, and probably KOAN sound do). I managed to get some good results: https://soundcloud.com/proj14/drum-and-bass-experiment

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Post by ill mindset » Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:26 am

enjarcher wrote:Yeah, KTN doesn't use reason anymore, not since he started using these crazy sounds anyway. Massive's definitely the way to go. On the other hand, you can get some great results by using complex eq/filter processing on reeses (which is what Noisia, Skrillex, and probably KOAN sound do). I managed to get some good results: https://soundcloud.com/proj14/drum-and-bass-experiment
Nice work. I like your reece line. crisp highs

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Post by enjarcher » Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:46 am

ill mindset wrote:
enjarcher wrote:Yeah, KTN doesn't use reason anymore, not since he started using these crazy sounds anyway. Massive's definitely the way to go. On the other hand, you can get some great results by using complex eq/filter processing on reeses (which is what Noisia, Skrillex, and probably KOAN sound do). I managed to get some good results: https://soundcloud.com/proj14/drum-and-bass-experiment
Nice work. I like your reece line. crisp highs
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Post by BLASKO » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:06 am

hey Scarcellex
no chance you want to go more into detail how you got those awesome talky basses on mean machines???? i tried remaking them just by what you have posted and had no luck what so ever. any chance of a screen shot?? or instrument rack lol

any help would be awesome

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Post by smile » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:53 pm

edit: cleaned up my sc
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Post by Ishka » Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:15 pm

smile that is awesome.

if you could shed any light on how to modulate a sound like that it would be greatly appreciated

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Post by vault » Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:29 am

Haha, funny... It's pretty much a normal growl filtered, the layering technique just made it seem like it says "Talk to me".

Example:

0:45 - seems like the bass says "Talk to Me" too, right?

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Post by Phatscout » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:22 am

I'm pretty sure during mau5hax (or some other interview) KTN said the Talk to Me bass is (I'm dead serious here) Modern Talking through a guitar amp. Honestly I think it sounds obviously M-Talky to me.
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