Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

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Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by Tupello » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:35 pm

Not sure if this has already been answered, but Trollphace's new basses are absolutely sick, the attack and dirt from them is just :W: :W: :W: :W:

Anyone got any idea how he gets the attack and just the general sound? I know the right direction is phase and such, but any idea on how to get it closer? Possibly the signal chain?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iONGdto1N2k

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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by KRONIKAL » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:58 pm

Small phased hits ultra compressed + formant switching in melodyne
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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by Banesy » Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:24 am

DuDE glad to hear someone else is obsessed with this sound. I am trying really hard to get it right now. No luck yet.

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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by Banesy » Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:25 am

KRONIKAL wrote:Small phased hits ultra compressed + formant switching in melodyne
Hmm...interesting idea. Any examples?

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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by Tupello » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:46 pm

KRONIKAL wrote:Small phased hits ultra compressed + formant switching in melodyne
Interesting, Melodyne could contribute.

I talked to Labco yesterday and he said it was a lot to do with the fact Trollphace uses Reason these days, but at the same time, Trollphace posted a video on his FB of him on Logic 9.
I Don't know what to believe anymore! :(

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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by Omniclad » Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:30 am

Trollphace uses Reason for his wonky shit (like the remix you posted), and Logic for his Tearout stuff. He's stated that in a Google Hangout before.

Thus, he probably made the basses for the Yogi remix in Reason. To which, I can't help you, but just thought you should know.

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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by KRONIKAL » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:59 am

Trollphace uses also fl studio (really) so maybe could be the newtone that is just great for formant switching just in the tail of that small phased hits...try yourself using a phased formant square whit a bit of release.Reccord it put it in newtone cut the tail and formant up or down.drag the sample in the pattern create the "melody" record it again and add short reverb with a bit of pre delay + OTT to bring it up.
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Post by KRONIKAL » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:02 am

Trollphace seems to be an all around daw user :)
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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by Ascenic » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:50 pm

Could you explain what you mean by phase? How would I apply that? Having like 3 voices in Massive and turning the pitch cutoff up a bit?
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Post by KRONIKAL » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:10 pm

apply the phase just to one osc...i mean the modulation osc in the bottom left of massive...go to phase move it to more or less at 90° and hear what sound best using different wavetables and differents filters (i think bandreject and double notch to create the kinda vowel).
you don' t need 3 osc for this type os sound i think
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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by Ascenic » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:13 pm

KRONIKAL wrote:apply the phase just to one osc...i mean the modulation osc in the bottom left of massive...go to phase move it to more or less at 90° and hear what sound best using different wavetables and differents filters (i think bandreject and double notch to create the kinda vowel).
you don' t need 3 osc for this type os sound i think
I didn't mean 3 oscillators, I was talking about the voicing tab. For some reason Phase Modulation never occurred to me lol. :cornlol:
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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by KRONIKAL » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:26 pm

However Im trying right now to get something like it but with newtone seems to alter too much the part that i formant down or up
maybe melodyne is smoother or have an option for it
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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by Banesy » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:55 am

Haven't had much luck with Melodyne formant play. I am not sure who's sound is who's but I like both synths a lot. One has a vinyl kind of sweep too it and the other has more of a yaw mouthy character which I guessing is Skrillex's.

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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by Ascenic » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:06 am

Banesy wrote:Haven't had much luck with Melodyne formant play. I am not sure who's sound is who's but I like both synths a lot. One has a vinyl kind of sweep too it and the other has more of a yaw mouthy character which I guessing is Skrillex's.
The one that kicks in at 00:45 is definitely Skrillex. He's used it a lot in his recent tracks and I've actually already started a thread on it here.
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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by KRONIKAL » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:15 am

Ascenic wrote:
Banesy wrote:Haven't had much luck with Melodyne formant play. I am not sure who's sound is who's but I like both synths a lot. One has a vinyl kind of sweep too it and the other has more of a yaw mouthy character which I guessing is Skrillex's.
The one that kicks in at 00:45 is definitely Skrillex. He's used it a lot in his recent tracks and I've actually already started a thread on it here.
i don't think so honestly because i' ve listen it already an awful lot of time in recent trollphace tracks like in the rebel remix
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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by Ascenic » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:19 pm

KRONIKAL wrote:
Ascenic wrote:
Banesy wrote:Haven't had much luck with Melodyne formant play. I am not sure who's sound is who's but I like both synths a lot. One has a vinyl kind of sweep too it and the other has more of a yaw mouthy character which I guessing is Skrillex's.
The one that kicks in at 00:45 is definitely Skrillex. He's used it a lot in his recent tracks and I've actually already started a thread on it here.
i don't think so honestly because i' ve listen it already an awful lot of time in recent trollphace tracks like in the rebel remix
I've heard the rebel remix and the growl I'm talking about isn't in it. Just the standard Trollphace patch that starts the Burial drop.
List of songs that Skrillex has used the 00:45 growl in:
http://www60.zippyshare.com/v/75557749/file.html
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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by Assassin_Music » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:28 pm

Here is my best attempt at the first sound. Pretty much got close and gave up! Anyone like me to do a tutorial?

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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by Ascenic » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:51 pm

Yes. Yes. Yes. It's almost perfect.
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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by Omniclad » Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:33 am

Show us your magic sir

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Re: Trollphace/Skrillex Bass

Post by Assassin_Music » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:41 pm

Ok, check the link again…I updated it with a closer patch. I will work on vid tutorial tonight. It sounds like the 3rd sweep is just a slight modulation change on the same patch and I can't get the patch to do it so I don't think this is the right way to get this sound but hey…kind of close.

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