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Desembra - Bendal Growl

Postby XoraX » Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:59 pm

Guys like srsly HOLY F*** how would you go about a growl like this ?!
sounds straight like skrillex how the f do you get such a huge sound ?!
any Ideas ? I never get my growls to be that huge :u: :corncry:


Sound starts at 0:27
https://soundcloud.com/dubstep/desembra-bendal
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Postby GNova » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:07 am

It is basic mixing skills. Making electronic music is not only about making cool sounds, it is a lot of "knowing how to make them sound cool", to make your stuff louder you have to use compression, clipping... The thing that make big dubstep producers's songs so heacy is because they can reduce the dynamic range to 4-3, it mean there is only 4, sometimes 3 db of difference between the heaviest and the lowest sounds. It bring everything in front, make them louder, and can only be achieve if the mixing is clear and precise.

Search for stuff like sonnar inflator, t rex soft clipper and you to use them. Your music will be something else.
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Postby Toolman4 » Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:28 am

that particular drop growl at .27s is a very common growl. You can find it. What he's done to make it seem heavier is the mixing and effect processing. That's all.
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Postby SyrantOfficial » Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:21 pm

I mean I have him on skype. I could ask him for you?
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Postby XoraX » Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:13 pm

Dude that would be super cool of you!
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Postby OmegaMode » Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:43 am

I haven't tried his Bendal Growl yet but I have attempted his Vintage Growl.

His growl is at 1:03 ↓

https://soundcloud.com/officialdesembra/desembra-vintage-original-mix-3k-free-download

My version ↓

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https://soundcloud.com/omegamodeofficial/crisp-growl/s-9WN26

I used Serum, OTT and Ohmicide. :twisted:
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Postby Ascenic » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:05 pm

OmegaMode plz. Plz. Plz. Plz. It's so good. Very BA.
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Postby XoraX » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:49 pm

Dayum Omega killing it like usually dude !
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Postby _Agu_ » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:06 am

Crap, how I haven't ever even heard about Desembra? These 2 of his tracks you guys posted sound better than half of the stuff on Never Say Die and Discipline combined...
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Postby OmegaMode » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:54 am

_Agu_ wrote:Crap, how I haven't ever even heard about Desembra? These 2 of his tracks you guys posted sound better than half of the stuff on Never Say Die and Discipline combined...


He is going places! :4: :h:
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Postby Redoken » Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:44 pm

OmegaMode wrote:I haven't tried his Bendal Growl yet but I have attempted his Vintage Growl.

His growl is at 1:03 ↓

https://soundcloud.com/officialdesembra/desembra-vintage-original-mix-3k-free-download

My version ↓

PRIVATE LINK:
https://soundcloud.com/omegamodeofficial/crisp-growl/s-9WN26

I used Serum, OTT and Ohmicide. :twisted:


I tried with serum as well but I think FM8 would work better to get the original one.

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https://soundcloud.com/redoken/serum-growl/s-64ORe
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Postby Ascenic » Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:19 pm

I feel like I'm close to Omega's, but I don't know how to give it that last "push" into greatness.
https://clyp.it/u33yqtzu
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Postby SyrantOfficial » Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:05 am

I think I accidentally made the growl from Blackout ;) or something similar!
https://soundcloud.com/syrant/blackout-growl/s-b2ybc

and the growl at the start of this drop:
https://soundcloud.com/dubstep/dr-ozi-blackout-omegamode-remix-edmcom-exclusive

In serum with post processing in ableton
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Postby Gustavo » Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:55 am

Ascenic wrote:I feel like I'm close to Omega's, but I don't know how to give it that last "push" into greatness.
https://clyp.it/u33yqtzu


HOW are you people doing this? Idk how to get the little clicking sound to it. The "nuggets" as barely alive named them.
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Postby Ascenic » Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:15 am

Gustavo wrote:
Ascenic wrote:I feel like I'm close to Omega's, but I don't know how to give it that last "push" into greatness.
https://clyp.it/u33yqtzu


HOW are you people doing this? Idk how to get the little clicking sound to it. The "nuggets" as barely alive named them.


My trick is to use a formant rich oscillator like AI (set to bend-, of course,) and then very quietly layer it with a oscillator that's been destroyed by FM. So you get the clarity of the formant, with the harsh FM noise. Also, pitchbend to really low notes. I analyzed Omega's through wave candy/SPAN etc for no less then 10 days replicating his EQ movement lol.

Another thing I love is Serum's distortion set to rectifier. Put some weak sounds in, get awesomeness out. I prefer to set it to "before" and have a slightly resonant HP at like 300hz.
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Postby OmegaMode » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:41 am

Here is the processing of the growl.

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I went for a really lame initial sound that sounds almost like an fm squelchy bass but sort saw like with some white noise. :Q:
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Postby Ascenic » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:06 pm

Wow, thanks for the pic Omega! Also, FL 12, eh? I've been trying to get used to the GUI but it still feels a bit weird lol.

If anyone cares, here's a picture of my chain.
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Postby XoraX » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:17 pm

Jo Omega can you explain the FX chain a bit more pls ? :) and about the init sound pls ?
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Postby Desembra » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:48 pm

Hey!

I'm very flattered that people want to recreate my sounds, so I'm gonna give you a little clue. Basically, the main focus on a growl (In my opinion) is the vowel modulations. A shit wobble can easily be turned into a dope growl with the right vowel to it. I'd suggest you all take a look at the Formant presets in Ableton's Eq and try FM8 out (I used FM8 for the Bendal growl) ;-)
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Postby Ascenic » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:16 am

Wow, very cool that you have an account here Desembra! I would have to agree with the importance of EQ modulation; in my analyzing of your and Omega Mode's growls I noticed very steep peaks and notches in the frequency spectrum. Did you use a phaser? I noticed several peaks in the 2,000 khz region and higher that seem characteristic of phasers.

On the subject of EQ8's formant settings, I actually took the time to remake them in PMEQ2 for fellow FL users.
I also recorded FM8's formant waveforms as single-cycle waveforms for use in synths like Serum or Sytrus. DL: http://www.mediafire.com/download/at09o ... nd+EQs.zip

EDIT: Oops, I was actually referring to your Vintage growl with the comments regarding phasers. XD

Yeah, though that Bendal growl is really cool.
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