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Re: What game are you playing?

Post by hugh » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:17 pm

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hugh wrote:replaying Rome Total War in anticipation of Rome 2!
Have to say, despite being a little bit dated in terms of some of the mechanics and options, the campaign is a lot more fun than Shogun 2 and I am really enjoying it playing as the Brutii at the moment
Each to their own but naaaaaaah. Diplomats, troop retraining, merchants, retarded AI and rebel factions are just impossibly frustrating to me after the improvements of Empire and Shogun 2. I'm currently playing an Oda campaign on hard in S2 and it's a blast.
I'll break it down as to why I think it is more fun, and more importantly I will highlight my main issues with Shogun 2.
Firstly, Shogun 2 uses a small, fairly linear map (japan is long and thin, it doesn't make for a diverse campaign) whereas other Total War games have a much bigger scape. The whole game feels more epic. This is true for Medieval, Rome and Empire. This results in my biggest problem with Shogun;

Playing the game properly will almost never result in open pitched battles but rather siege after siege after siege

This is simply because the map is quite small, the timescale is too long for the size of the map, which in turn means armies can cross huge areas in little time. Almost any offensive battle, unless you actually go out of your way to find yourself a proper challenge, will result in you sieging your enemy. It's repetitive basically. This compounds with other really poor issues - the first is religion and the resulting rebellions. It is far too easy to make a an enemy/neutral settlement revolt by the use of religious agents. The Fall of the Samurai has the exact same problem in that you can use the Shogun/Imperial agents to inspire revolts. It just means that if you are playing the game properly and as well as possible, you will just send an army of agents into coveted territory and replace all the standing factions there with Rebels. No wars are needed, no fuss is caused, you just silently become extremely powerful without any provocation.

A lot of the other issues I have are indeed just personal, but I would also say that the skirmishing in Shogun 2 is not as good. Archers are poor in that they need to fire within their arc in order to be able to shoot. Otherwise they have to turn. Rome Archers don't have this problem. They can fire on the spot, the units themselves just turn rather than the whole formation. In Shogun 2 you never have to deal with archers as long as you are intelligent in your approach to your enemy and have a couple of cavalry units. On the flipside, the damage archers themselves do in Shogun 2 is too much for me, I much prefer skirmishing in Rome. I also prefer the units diversity. In Rome we have javelin throwers, slingers, archers, phalanx, heavy and light infantry...Infantry with different stat spreads that can actually specialise a lot more in their roles. Babarians, chariots, elephants, cataphracts, and who could forget flaming pigs ? :lol:

I will agree that Rome has many problems, the diplomats are annoying but it's kind of a moot issue for me because diplomacy has always been a weak point of CA games and never REALLY been worth engaging in all that much. The lack of expandable recruitment slots is also a problem. Troop retraining has not been such an issue for me, I don't mind it. I think it's perfectly acceptable that you should only be able to retrain troops when they are actually in the settlement and in a province that actually has the required buildings. AI is just as retarded in Shogun 2 to be honest, full stacks of Samurai Bowmen says it all. I will grant you that Shogun 2's pathfinding in seige is a LOT better (though I believe they could never fix this issue which is why we went from proper cities in Rome/Medieval 2, where we had units running around weirdly and bugging out loads in both games inside cities to boring repetitive forts) but I will take the diversity in Romes cool cities, where each faction has a different style, over Shoguns samey forts any day.

Pathfinding in Rome is definitely buggy and annoying, however it's the only bug right now that's really annoying me. I like the way generals gain traits in a free-mannered way. I hate Shogun's refined and uninteresting upgrade path for Generals, I hate the way all Generals basically end up the same just with more or less battle stars, I hate the way every city has the same 4 buildings that looks the same. I really don't like the almost RPGish route they are trying to take a portion of the game down because it preaches choice but in reality offers a lot less.
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Re: What game are you playing?

Post by wysockisauce » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:24 pm

Liam92 wrote:I've still to play Dota 2, had it installed since the beta for a few months now, it looks very hard though and I've heard people are not too welcoming to new players, so I'm severly put off!

Just mute everyone, turn off chat and play. It's the only way to learn the game. Once you get it though it will be a lot of fun. It's pretty much the only thing I play. I don't get much enjoyment from other games.

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Re: What game are you playing?

Post by collige » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:01 pm

wysockisauce wrote: I like being able to see where I am at relative to other players and enjoy progressing through brackets or ladders..
That's what team matchmaking is for.
I wont pick a support or initiator on a team full of retards because that's a guaranteed loss.
And that's the exact attitude Valve is trying to avoid. Let's say you have the lowest ranking on your team after you queue, but you're a dedicated mid player who excels at the lane. Everyone else on your team will bitch at you saying "don't let the noob go mid" etc etc even though you would perform even worse if you're forced into supporting.

In fact, Dotabuff briefly implemented a public rating system at the beginning of this year and people were getting shit for being "bronze scum" within 24 hours before Valve implemented the privacy shit.
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Re: What game are you playing?

Post by deadly_habit » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:07 pm

While I haven't played it seems DOTA 2 is a game best played with a group of friends or a set team rather than relying on pub matchmaking. Hell that's the case for most games.

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Re: What game are you playing?

Post by wysockisauce » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:51 pm

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wysockisauce wrote: I like being able to see where I am at relative to other players and enjoy progressing through brackets or ladders..
That's what team matchmaking is for.
I wont pick a support or initiator on a team full of retards because that's a guaranteed loss.
And that's the exact attitude Valve is trying to avoid. Let's say you have the lowest ranking on your team after you queue, but you're a dedicated mid player who excels at the lane. Everyone else on your team will bitch at you saying "don't let the noob go mid" etc etc even though you would perform even worse if you're forced into supporting.

In fact, Dotabuff briefly implemented a public rating system at the beginning of this year and people were getting shit for being "bronze scum" within 24 hours before Valve implemented the privacy shit.
I don't play with a team. I should be able to do the above mentioned stuff in a solo queue.

If you are a dedicated mid player and you are good you won't have shit stats. That's like saying someone is good at math but is failing a math class. If you really are a good player then you would let the more experienced players pick the more important roles. 99% of the time stats will predict how well you can do your job.

Because of the lack of stats people bicker even more and you end up with teams of 5 carries. In over 200 games of dota that i have played maybe a handful have had true supports.

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Re: What game are you playing?

Post by collige » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:28 pm

wysockisauce wrote:
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wysockisauce wrote: I like being able to see where I am at relative to other players and enjoy progressing through brackets or ladders..
That's what team matchmaking is for.
I wont pick a support or initiator on a team full of retards because that's a guaranteed loss.
And that's the exact attitude Valve is trying to avoid. Let's say you have the lowest ranking on your team after you queue, but you're a dedicated mid player who excels at the lane. Everyone else on your team will bitch at you saying "don't let the noob go mid" etc etc even though you would perform even worse if you're forced into supporting.

In fact, Dotabuff briefly implemented a public rating system at the beginning of this year and people were getting shit for being "bronze scum" within 24 hours before Valve implemented the privacy shit.
I don't play with a team. I should be able to do the above mentioned stuff in a solo queue.

If you are a dedicated mid player and you are good you won't have shit stats. That's like saying someone is good at math but is failing a math class. If you really are a good player then you would let the more experienced players pick the more important roles. 99% of the time stats will predict how well you can do your job.

Because of the lack of stats people bicker even more and you end up with teams of 5 carries. In over 200 games of dota that i have played maybe a handful have had true supports.
People have been picking team of 5 carries since the days of Dota 1. And back in those day I got kicked from Battle.net pubs before the game started because of how bad my stats were.

I never said they would have bad stats, I said they would have the lowest ranking on their team. No team will ever have five people of the exact same ranking, someone will always have the lowest and if MMR is visible that person will always get the short end of the stick.
deadly habit wrote:While I haven't played it seems DOTA 2 is a game best played with a group of friends or a set team rather than relying on pub matchmaking. Hell that's the case for most games.
You're right, but the difference is much greater in Dota because one player can easily ruin the game for everyone else. It's not like FPSes or something where one person can make huge plays no matter how bad the enemy is.
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Re: What game are you playing?

Post by deadly_habit » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:31 pm

I dunno I play quite a few games that rely on teamwork and set roles where one person screwing up can result in defeat, just seems like MOBAs are full of some of the most unpleasant gamers around who look for an excuse to rage or be assholes whenever something doesn't go their way, pub games being even worse as you can end up with a bunch of 12 year olds.

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Re: What game are you playing?

Post by wub » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:21 pm

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wub wrote:New Watch Dogs video is out;



*drool*
Ahh man you got me excited. Thought this was 17 minutes of new gameplay. The second half of the video was put out nearly a year ago and the first part has been out for about 2 months.
Another new Watch Dogs video;



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Re: What game are you playing?

Post by JimmaJamJamie » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:55 pm

wysockisauce wrote:I have also read that it will try to keep your wins at 50% and put you on a team of incompetent apes when you win too much. Dunno if that's true though. :lol:
Yeah don't think that is true, out of the last 12 matches i played my team only lost one (and this was in matchmaking, with random people everytime).
collige wrote:
wysockisauce wrote: I like being able to see where I am at relative to other players and enjoy progressing through brackets or ladders..
That's what team matchmaking is for.
I have definitely noticed a skill increase of people i am matched with recently (simple things like creep blocking, warding, etc.), so don't really feel there is a need to know my level in comparison to other peoples as i can tell that the skill level has increased as my level has.
Liam92 wrote:I've heard people are not too welcoming to new players, so I'm severly put off!
From what i have experienced the community isn't as bad as everyone makes out. I have had the occasional person being and dick and just raging at his own team and thinking they are amazing but generally the only thing people will do is call their teams 'noobs' if they lose.

Would definitely recommend having a go at the game though, it's really rewarding when you win an evenly matched game. Played a match earlier which took like 64mins and towards the end both teams had a barracks down and it was really back and forward. Was so glad we won.

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Re: What game are you playing?

Post by soulkids » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:14 pm

started playing CS:GO

aint the most noob friendly game exactly. was playing lots of 1.6 but that was years ago. gun game is kinda fun, maps look nice, hit boxes suck sometimes.

much better than CSS tho.

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Post by NickUndercover » Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:57 am

Started Blacklist ! Definitely more interesting than the last splinter cells in terms of stealth gameplay, already had a few moments when I had to camp and take more than 15 mins to evaluate my options / look at the enemy movements. Story seems quite bait, up til now it's just been extracting assets or informants so I can't really tell. I'm playing panther.

Also I can run it perfectly on my 2yo laptop and it does look quite good !!!
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Re: What game are you playing?

Post by mIrReN » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:28 am

soulkids wrote:
aint the most noob friendly game exactly.
, hit boxes suck sometimes.
how so?

and well hitboxes have always sucked in CS :D
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Re: What game are you playing?

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Post by dubstepper » Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:26 am

Been playing far cry 3 co op with some mates. I have to say its the most fun I've had on ps3 for a while dispite the many bugs
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Post by finji » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:32 pm



This looks pretty next level, coming out on PC as well; though it will mean I finally have to upgrade my computer by the looks of it.

Love that dystopian setting.
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Re: What game are you playing?

Post by Dub_freak » Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:34 pm

Hyped for Rome 2: total war. :corndance:
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Post by hutyluty » Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:46 pm

i kind of just want it to be rome total war with better graphics, battles and diplomacy, i never really liked empire or shogun 2, but my biggest problem with them, which was the units all being very similar, shouldnt be an issue.

of course, i wont actually be able to play it for a year or so due to not having any money for a new computer but looking forward to just watching other people play :corndance:
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Re: What game are you playing?

Post by finji » Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:49 am

I'm not having a great time with gaming right now, just not really enjoying new games. They all seem so clunky and unplayable to me.. Only games I'm playing are LoL and Savage XR

Also in the midst of downloading a huge graphics pack for the original Deus Ex :corndance:
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Post by Electric_Head » Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:33 am

finji wrote:I'm not having a great time with gaming right now, just not really enjoying new games. They all seem so clunky and unplayable to me.. Only games I'm playing are LoL and Savage XR

Also in the midst of downloading a huge graphics pack for the original Deus Ex :corndance:
Just install http://www.enbdev.com/ss_deusex3_en.htm

apparently this one can use DX10 http://blog.metaclassofnil.com/?tag=dsfix

I've only tried enb.

Dark Souls has recieved yet another graphics mod.
It looks superb.

The Division looks beautiful.
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