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mmmm lava planet...

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babylonian free planet big up :Q:
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Be sure to freeze yourself first. It'll be a long 10,000 years.
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Ficticious wrote:Be sure to freeze yourself first. It'll be a long 10,000 years.
Totally worth it to be able to live a subsistence lifestyle in a temperate climate.
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Post by sigbowls » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:38 pm

why not just make a space city
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Post by frank grimes jr. » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:19 pm

Why not just become parson and fuck off to some distant hologram?
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Post by alphacat » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:33 pm

I like the idea in the novel 'Neuromancer' of an Rastafari Orbital Colony (called Zion.)
everything2 wrote:In William Gibson's Neuromancer, Zion is a earth-orbiting space colony founded by workers who, after having built Freeside decided not to return to earth via the gravity well and stayed in orbit to found their own colony. The original founders, old Rastafaris founded the colony using the Rastafarian religion as a basis for their society and as they say they have "no respect for Babylon law." As such, the colony grows a lot of marijuana, which is part of the Rastafarian religion, and sells it with no regard for the laws of the rest of the world. Throughout the entire colony, the sounds of dub, a musical style which is a mix of reggae beats sans lyrics, can be heard constantly.

The colony has its own tug for transporting goods and personnel, freeing it from the costly service of the JAL shuttles. The tug is named after Marcus Garvey, a leader of early pushes for black civil rights reform who advocated that all African-Americans should return to Ethiopia, or as it is known in the Rastafarian relgion, Zion. Thus, the tug serves the same purpose as the man, removing the chosen from the evil of Babylon and delivering them onto the promised land, Zion.
Except without any explicit religious allegiance...

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Re: Packing my bags

Post by LACE » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:40 pm

Ficticious wrote:Be sure to freeze yourself first. It'll be a long 10,000 years.
no ten's of thousands. the planet is 4 light years away

..so it would take 40,000 years at best for us to get there with current tech

maybe an incentive to advance our propulsion technology?

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LACE wrote:
Ficticious wrote:Be sure to freeze yourself first. It'll be a long 10,000 years.
no ten's of thousands. the planet is 4 light years away

..so it would take 40,000 years at best for us to get there with current tech

maybe an incentive to advance our propulsion technology?

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Lots of money is being dumped into Alcubierre drive research by China, the US, and others.

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Post by garethom » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:56 pm

everyone who says they would leave earth would shit their pants the moment they set eyes on the launch pad

there gonna be dr pepper in space? aint leavin no dr pepper

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Post by garethom » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:59 pm

alphacat wrote:
LACE wrote:
Ficticious wrote:Be sure to freeze yourself first. It'll be a long 10,000 years.
no ten's of thousands. the planet is 4 light years away

..so it would take 40,000 years at best for us to get there with current tech

maybe an incentive to advance our propulsion technology?

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Lots of money is being dumped into Alcubierre drive research by China, the US, and others.
From the wiki about Alcubierre Drive.
A bubble macroscopically large enough to enclose a ship 200 meters across would require a total amount of exotic matter equal to 10 billion times the mass of the observable universe.
-q-

Might be a couple of years then.

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Re: Packing my bags

Post by alphacat » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:13 pm

garethom wrote:
alphacat wrote:
LACE wrote:
Ficticious wrote:Be sure to freeze yourself first. It'll be a long 10,000 years.
no ten's of thousands. the planet is 4 light years away

..so it would take 40,000 years at best for us to get there with current tech

maybe an incentive to advance our propulsion technology?

:cornlol:
Lots of money is being dumped into Alcubierre drive research by China, the US, and others.
From the wiki about Alcubierre Drive.
A bubble macroscopically large enough to enclose a ship 200 meters across would require a total amount of exotic matter equal to 10 billion times the mass of the observable universe.
-q-

Might be a couple of years then.
According to the known, classical Einsteinian model. There are theoretical physicists who are exploring possibilities that make the energy requirements less ridiculous. One of the ideas is that the universe is composed of multiple, co-existent states - one slower than light, one faster than light - that are essentially a matter of phasic attunement or something like that... so if you can achieve the phase switch into FTL and then back to STL, you're golden. Another take on the idea is that you don't need to create a full energy "bubble" as described in the original proposal and instead only need a torus (donut) shape to achieve relativistic space-time contraction/expansion, and which would require a fraction of the energy. (A fraction of 10 billion times the observable mass of the universe, anyway.)

But honestly, I'm no physicist. I just like piquant ideas. :corndance:

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Re: Packing my bags

Post by nowaysj » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:34 pm

So much quotable win in this thread, don't know where to start. Think franky is winning it so far.
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Given that this is the state of our space technology, I'm sure we haven't even really begun to figure out how to move around space.

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Re: Packing my bags

Post by Hircine » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:40 pm

alphacat wrote:I like the idea in the novel 'Neuromancer' of an Rastafari Orbital Colony (called Zion.)
everything2 wrote:In William Gibson's Neuromancer, Zion is a earth-orbiting space colony founded by workers who, after having built Freeside decided not to return to earth via the gravity well and stayed in orbit to found their own colony. The original founders, old Rastafaris founded the colony using the Rastafarian religion as a basis for their society and as they say they have "no respect for Babylon law." As such, the colony grows a lot of marijuana, which is part of the Rastafarian religion, and sells it with no regard for the laws of the rest of the world. Throughout the entire colony, the sounds of dub, a musical style which is a mix of reggae beats sans lyrics, can be heard constantly.

The colony has its own tug for transporting goods and personnel, freeing it from the costly service of the JAL shuttles. The tug is named after Marcus Garvey, a leader of early pushes for black civil rights reform who advocated that all African-Americans should return to Ethiopia, or as it is known in the Rastafarian relgion, Zion. Thus, the tug serves the same purpose as the man, removing the chosen from the evil of Babylon and delivering them onto the promised land, Zion.
Except without any explicit religious allegiance...
sounds like a good place to live.
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Re: Packing my bags

Post by alphacat » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:48 pm

Hircine wrote:
alphacat wrote:I like the idea in the novel 'Neuromancer' of an Rastafari Orbital Colony (called Zion.)
everything2 wrote:In William Gibson's Neuromancer, Zion is a earth-orbiting space colony founded by workers who, after having built Freeside decided not to return to earth via the gravity well and stayed in orbit to found their own colony. The original founders, old Rastafaris founded the colony using the Rastafarian religion as a basis for their society and as they say they have "no respect for Babylon law." As such, the colony grows a lot of marijuana, which is part of the Rastafarian religion, and sells it with no regard for the laws of the rest of the world. Throughout the entire colony, the sounds of dub, a musical style which is a mix of reggae beats sans lyrics, can be heard constantly.

The colony has its own tug for transporting goods and personnel, freeing it from the costly service of the JAL shuttles. The tug is named after Marcus Garvey, a leader of early pushes for black civil rights reform who advocated that all African-Americans should return to Ethiopia, or as it is known in the Rastafarian relgion, Zion. Thus, the tug serves the same purpose as the man, removing the chosen from the evil of Babylon and delivering them onto the promised land, Zion.
Except without any explicit religious allegiance...
sounds like a good place to live.
And this is also somewhat along the lines of the seasteading/autonomous city/libertarian "free zone" idea. If you don't like the way your civilization is playing out, go start your own. :W:

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Interestingly enough, just read yet another article about possible Alcubierre drive configurations and this guy is saying it could be done using only the combined power usage of the entire US in a year. Wow, Is that all? :P

http://news.discovery.com/space/how-to- ... 20924.html

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Post by frank grimes jr. » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:10 pm

alphacat wrote:
Interestingly enough, just read yet another article about possible Alcubierre drive configurations and this guy is saying it could be done using only the combined power usage of the entire US in a year. Wow, Is that all? :P
GRRRR, my calculator doesn't go up that high! :lol:
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Re: Packing my bags

Post by sarajevo » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:17 pm

'Life cannot survive the 2,200 degree heat of the planet'

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Re: Packing my bags

Post by LACE » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:42 pm

alphacat wrote: Another take on the idea is that you don't need to create a full energy "bubble" as described in the original proposal and instead only need a torus (donut) shape to achieve relativistic space-time contraction/expansion, and which would require a fraction of the energy. (A fraction of 10 billion times the observable mass of the universe, anyway.)

But honestly, I'm no physicist. I just like piquant ideas. :corndance:
*more incentive i should've said (jokingly because as bolden the astronaut stated, we're on 7th generation jet engines, but 1st generation rocket engines)

ah well that's good to hear..that warp bubble idea is madness, gave me so many concerns though like if the faster then light velocity outside of the local reference frame inside the bubble starts getting more intense and the interior reference frame is in a state of free fall, and i suppose it doesn't see any intertial increase..or experiences any time dilation..how would you stop? how would you even steer the damn thing?..how do you even exit ffs? :cornlol:

''wow space..crazy..velocity..everything happens soo much'' that meme was so perfect.
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