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Re: Packing my bags

Post by garethom » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:45 pm

LACE wrote:
alphacat wrote: Another take on the idea is that you don't need to create a full energy "bubble" as described in the original proposal and instead only need a torus (donut) shape to achieve relativistic space-time contraction/expansion, and which would require a fraction of the energy. (A fraction of 10 billion times the observable mass of the universe, anyway.)

But honestly, I'm no physicist. I just like piquant ideas. :corndance:
*more incentive i should've said (jokingly because as bolden the astronaut stated, we're on 7th generation jet engines, but 1st generation rocket engines)

ah well that's good to hear..that warp bubble idea is madness, gave me so many concerns though like if the faster then light velocity outside of the local reference frame inside the bubble starts getting more intense and the interior reference frame is in a state of free fall, and i suppose it doesn't see any intertial increase..or experiences any time dilation..how would you stop? how would you even steer the damn thing?..how do you even exit ffs? :cornlol:

''wow space..crazy..velocity..everything happens soo much'' that meme was so perfect.
it just goes really fast until u get 2 teh moon in like a minute

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Re: Packing my bags

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NASA tested an impossible space engine and it somehow worked

If the tests of the Cannae Drive technology hold up, a trip to Mars could take weeks instead of months

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NASA has been testing new space travel technologies throughout its entire history, but the results of its latest experiment may be the most exciting yet — if they hold up. Earlier this week at a conference in Cleveland, Ohio, scientists with NASA's Eagleworks Laboratories in Houston, Texas, presented a paper indicating they had achieved a small amount of thrust from a container that had no traditional fuels, only microwaves, bouncing around inside it. If the results can be replicated reliably and scaled up — and that's a big "if," since NASA only produced them on a very small scale over a two-day period — they could ultimately result in ultra-light weight, ultra fast spacecraft that could carry humans to Mars in weeks instead of months, and to the nearest star system outside our own (Proxima Centurai) in just about 30 years.

The type of container NASA tested was based on a model for a new space engine that doesn't use weighty liquid propellant or nuclear reactors, called a Cannae Drive. The idea is that microwaves bouncing from end-to-end of a specially designed, unevenly-shaped container can create a difference in radiation pressure, causing thrust to be exerted toward the larger end of the container. A similar type of technology called an EmDrive has been demonstrated to work in small scale trials by Chinese and Argentine scientists.

While the amount of thrust generated in these NASA's tests was lower than previous trials — between 30 and 50 micronewtons, way less than even the weight of an iPhone, as Nova points out — the fact that any thrust whatsoever is generated without an onboard source of fuel seems to violate the conservation of momentum, a bedrock in the laws of physics.

"not attributable to any classical electromagnetic phenomenon."

Most impressively, the NASA team specifically built two Cannae Drives, including one that was designed to fail, and instead it worked. As the scientists write in their paper abstract: "thrust was observed on both test articles, even though one of the test articles was designed with the expectation that it would not produce thrust." That suggests the drive is "producing a force that is not attributable to any classical electromagnetic phenomenon," the scientists write. It may instead be interacting with the quantum vacuum — the lowest energetic state possible — but the scientists don't have much evidence to support this idea yet.

There are many reasons to be skeptical: the inventor of the Cannae Drive, Guido Fetta, has only a Bachelor’s Degree in Chemical Engineering and is operating his company Cannae as a for-profit venture. Still, the fact that such results were produced by NASA scientists is promising and should warrant further investigation.

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Re: Packing my bags

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Re: Packing my bags

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Re: Packing my bags

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Re: Packing my bags

Post by dansci » Sun May 03, 2015 2:16 am

I read the original NASA space flight article when it first came out... I'm still pretty skeptical.

Shooting out photons(microwaves in this case) can produce thrust, but is usually nowhere near the amount recorded.

I think that the "thrust" will disappear once they place this thing in space or away from metallic objects.

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Re: Packing my bags

Post by wysockisauce » Sun May 03, 2015 7:40 pm

This sort of bullshit media attention is likely to kill the em drive / warp field experiments. If they get any negative results after so much hype is built up you can bet eagle works won't get anymore funding for their "sic-fi" experiments. Just look at the space flight thread, its full of trolls and trekkies now. :lol:

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Re: Packing my bags

Post by mason666 » Sun May 03, 2015 7:42 pm

what kind of shirt are the scientists wearing?
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Re: Packing my bags

Post by nousd » Sun May 03, 2015 11:52 pm

as for the 10 000 year journey
"Mutate & Migrate"
as Leary said
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Re: Packing my bags

Post by _ronzlo_ » Sun May 17, 2015 4:35 am

I think they're teasing us and that the Tsiolkovsky rocket equation has been a puppet show for our amusetraction.
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