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Post by dubway » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:16 pm

I have read a discussion about how DSF is broken viewtopic.php?f=7&t=282685&start=100 and I agree with most comments you made and that there is a need for a change.

Most comments can be summed up into two categories:

1. PROBLEM: forum is over segregated - if people chipped in and gave positive reinforcement to threads that interested them in the other boards more often, I reckon we can lift overall site moral. SUGGESTED SOLUTION: merge forums. BUT by merging sections you are just gonna piss people off.
- I have consistently pushed to having most of the forums merged, as the I think the forum is over segregated. The backlash from the vocal minority might be too much though.
- General is still a bit of a wasteland, Releases is just a mess, Mixes hardly anything gets responses these days outside of the established rolling threads...
- ...if people chipped in and gave positive reinforcement to threads the interested them in the other boards more often, I reckon we can lift overall site moral (for want of a better word)
- ...but the existence of the SNH deads out the general discussion (i don't know how true or not this was in the past), literally nothing jokes ever happens in general and anything interesting like talking about the last system/ zomby hudmo fights gets posted in snh leaving nothing to talk about in general except to say 'big up' about a new thelem ep
- the forum is too segregated. I think that the house sub-forum should be merged with the snh or converted to an all genres of music other that dubstep sub-forum. The only problems I see are the reduction of traffic to the snh and possible confusion arising from so many different genres. It just seems a bit odd that we have a sub-forum dedicated to house, but no other genres. The only thing that would suck about getting rid of the house dedicated forum would be the possible alienation of people who only visit the forum to post in the house section.
- I'm relatively new to this forum and I mostly visit the General Discussion board as things there seem to be well organized to me, although, I admit, it could be more jokes. I don't always visit the SNH, so much content being posted here I sometimes get confused and don't have that much time to read everything! Also it sometimes seems too hermetic tbh. When I registered I didn't really know why does something get posted in the SNH and not General Discussion and as a matter of fact I'm still not sure. For example the recent Compa thread, isn't that something music related meant to be posted in GD?
- yeah but by merging sections you are just gonna piss people off
- Actually I wasn't aware of the house subforum until now, never checked it before
- I never understood why there's a house subforum and not a drum & bass subforum.
2. PROBLEM: abuse of new users. SUGGESTED SOLUTION: edit/delete abusive posts. BUT it's not practical to monitor every thread.
- People should be more supportive of the new guys
- To many folk think it's hilarious to effectively spam new user threads like this with abuse just 'because'.
- when a new member posts shit in general discussion, and a neckbeard tells him off, why don't u just delete/edit the neckbeard's post? that'll send the message to other neckbeards - this is what we're talking about. stop making these kinds of posts. cause i feel like at the time they don't realize that what they're doing is pushing away prospective new heds.
- not practical to do it every time, of course, but just a few times could send the message and change attitudes. actually editing the post would be better than deleting it because then other ppl who came to the thread to do the same thing would see the mod edit.
Second problem could indeed be solved by stricter moderation, but also with help from other users (there is option called: "!" Report this post).

First problem, segregated forum, could be solved by "flat" forum software structure like Discourse, which is a brand new modern interactive forum software, where default view gives you overview of all latest topics in all categories, but if you are interested in particular category you just click on a specific category and get a list of latests topics in that category http://discuss.howtogeek.com/categories
It would allow us to have more categories than what we have now, which would be more like tags actually (house, drum and bass, 130, hiphop, SNH...) you would just have to choose a category when you start a new topic (instead of starting the topic in that subforum - what we have now).

It also solves many of the problems with traditional forums:
You can login with anything: Who wants to make an account for every forum? Just sign in with Google, Facebook, Twitter, or Yahoo. Of course, you can still make a traditional account if you choose.

Conversations aren’t broken up into multiple pages: Topics are on a single page, with continuous scrolling.

You’ll get notifications when you are mentioned, or when somebody replies to you. You can even @mention somebody in a post to pull them into the conversation.

Reply while you read: The new Reply and New Topic composers are docked to the screen, so you can even browse around the forum while writing your reply.

Paste to share images, links, videos – you don’t have to go through a bunch of hoops to embed a YouTube video – just paste in the link and it will automatically embed. You can drag and drop to upload a picture. You can even Ctrl + V with a screenshot in some browsers.

Remembers your place: If you read 50 posts out of a 100-topic-long thread, Discourse will remember your place and the next time you open that topic, it will start you where you left off.
I tried it and I think it's really cool. http://www.discourse.org/

Over the last 12 months we have quietly improved the forum back-end (new layout, HTTPS, fast stable server, regular updates, plugins, automatic registration procedure for new users...) and we will start adding new features to the forum (and we are very excited about them!), but now when we have solid foundation we would like to start slowly changing things and we want to get you involved into these changes, that's why we've opened this thread for public discussion.

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Re: Changes

Post by rockonin » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:27 pm

Don't like the discourse layout.
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Post by m8son666 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:28 pm

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Re: Changes

Post by Muncey » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:31 pm

m8son wrote:i'm happy to be a moderator if you need one
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Re: Changes

Post by Jizz » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:42 pm

hiphop & footwork subforum

please :)

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Re: Changes

Post by dickman69 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:43 pm

so im a neckbeard huh
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Re: Changes

Post by particle-jim » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:44 pm

I like they layout as is, lets not be reinventing the wheel eh?
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Re: Changes

Post by m8son666 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:47 pm

yh don't fix whats not broken imo

the onyl thing changing anything will achieve is dickheads like me moaning about it
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Re: Changes

Post by jaydot » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:47 pm

Distance remix?
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Re: Changes

Post by rockonin » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:48 pm

particle-jim wrote:I like they layout as is, lets not be reinventing the wheel eh?

I agree i like the layout the way it is. The only thing I can think of is that the 'Dubs & Tunes for Feedback' doesn't get enough footfall.
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Re: Changes

Post by particle-jim » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:49 pm

rockonin wrote:
particle-jim wrote:I like they layout as is, lets not be reinventing the wheel eh?

I agree i like the layout he way it is. The only thing I can think of is that the 'Dubs & Tunes for Feedback' doesn't get enough footfall.
I try and browse in there at least once or twice a week, more people should tbh, I've found some wicked stuff
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Re: Changes

Post by Muncey » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:52 pm

particle-jim wrote:
rockonin wrote:
particle-jim wrote:I like they layout as is, lets not be reinventing the wheel eh?

I agree i like the layout he way it is. The only thing I can think of is that the 'Dubs & Tunes for Feedback' doesn't get enough footfall.
I try and browse in there at least once or twice a week, more people should tbh, I've found some wicked stuff
Yeah I very rarely do but when I do I always find some decent stuff. I need to more.

Threads in SNH don't help, the dubs thread is more active than the dubs forum, the house/techno thread are more active than the house forum, the DSF mix competitions are more active than the mixes forum. Its down to convenience but its no wonder most don't leave SNH.

Also ban all you SNH regs who don't even listen to dubstep anymore, tru heds only

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Re: Changes

Post by kidshuffle » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:53 pm

I preferred holy water to changes tbh


I'll give this a legit read once I get home tho, changes probably aren't a bad idea
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Re: Changes

Post by dickman69 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:53 pm

Muncey wrote:Also ban all you SNH regs who don't even listen to dubstep anymore, tru heds only
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Re: Changes

Post by dubway » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:55 pm

particle-jim wrote:I like they layout as is, lets not be reinventing the wheel eh?
the suggested change of forum software is not about changing the layout at all.
actually we've just spent a lot of energy on changing current forum layout (phpBB), which will become useless if we choose to migrate to Discourse.

It's what is under the hood of Discourse is what is very different to current (phpBB), and you will know what I am talking about immediately if you try it... http://discuss.howtogeek.com/ (you can log in with 1-click if you have google, yahoo or facebook account)
you have a live preview when you are composing a post, you can bookmark, like, share - everything is very fluid..

I don't think it will solve all problems, but maybe it will be a kick in a right direction, especially because it is pleasure to use and opens discussion instead of segregating it and locking into subforums.

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Re: Changes

Post by _ronzlo_ » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:18 pm

^ As long as Facebook logins aren't required in the final implementation, otherwise... :confused:
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Re: Changes

Post by sixs » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:19 pm

dunno if it affects anyone else but the board is offline pretty much every morning from 5-5.20am
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Re: Changes

Post by sixs » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:20 pm

and yeah, keep facebook login well away. separation of church and state.
taters on that as we jack it

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Re: Changes

Post by dubway » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:23 pm

sixs wrote:dunno if it affects anyone else but the board is offline pretty much every morning from 5-5.20am
thanks for this! we were worrying if this affects anyone

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Re: Changes

Post by dubway » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:26 pm

_ronzlo_ wrote:^ As long as Facebook logins aren't required in the final implementation, otherwise... :confused:
of course not, it is just an easy shortcut (one-click login with yahoo, google or facebook account), but there will always be traditional login (same system which we have now)

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