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"We Need To Talk About Vinyl"

Post by Func » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:38 pm

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Vinyl is back. At least, so we’re led to believe every time SoundScan or the BPI send out a press release. (The New York Times most recently reported on vinyl’s ‘small renaissance’ in April, having previously covered similar stories a couple of times a year since 2008.) Whether it’s a short-term bubble or a lasting trend, as a long-time vinyl buyer I find many of the current sales strategies worrying. The truth is that the methods which stores and record labels are using to promote vinyl as a medium are short-sighted. At best these methods are unsustainable, but at worst they’re potentially damaging to the long-term health of the format itself.

When I began DJing back in the dark ages of 1997, there really was no option other than vinyl. It would be years before the most basic CDJs were frequently seen at underground clubs and raves, and the idea of DJing with a computer probably would have made most people laugh out loud. In fact, I entered into DJing so easily at least partially because I was already buying most of the underground music I loved on vinyl for a few years by that time. It was nothing new to go to shops that had stacks of new releases delivered multiple times per week, nor was it odd for me to go to the plentiful used shops to find older music I loved.

So, having continued to buy music in much the same way for more than half my life, surely I should be pleased to see articles which detail how vinyl sales are steadily rising? It should make me happy to see so many new vinyl labels popping up, flying in the face of all the supposedly irreversible ‘progress’ made by digital music sales? The reality isn’t quite that simple. Even putting aside the fact that a large proportion of vinyl sales come from things like audiophile reissues of classic albums, Record Store Day novelties and collectors’ editions, dance music has its own issues to deal with.

The biggest of all is the limited edition craze. Obviously, unlike digital downloads, all vinyl pressings are limited. Duh. But it seems like many artists and labels exist almost exclusively based around the idea of exclusivity, to the point where they’re clearly not pressing as many units as they could, just to keep up the ‘limited’ hype. Combined with the fact that a great many people are now buying records online instead of in local shops, this leads to a rush of people buying supposedly ‘rare’ records from the jump-off, regardless of whether that record is even any good. It’s hard not to be taken in by the ‘limited edition, one per customer’ hype – this might be your only chance of owning it, since it probably won’t be sitting on the shelves to check out later.

The reseller issue relates directly to that limited edition trend. For any hyped release, a number of people will buy up as many copies as they can to flip on Discogs at an exorbitant price. It’s really not hard to do when the total number of copies of a record is 500 or even 300, as so many are these days – even with one-per-customer rules, it’s not hard for one reseller to buy up 10% of all copies of a release.

I’m not against the idea of a few special limited records, but there’s so much hype for damn near any limited edition release that it’s clear more and more labels are starting to rely on the strategy to drive sales.

On another note, never in my memory have re-presses, reissues and bootlegs been such a huge and divisive issue, and never have they made up such a large percentage of records available from distributors. I understand it’s especially frustrating to long-time vinyl heads who’ve done the work searching out these records only to see them made more widely available for a reasonable price. But as I’m a firm believer in music being made available, that isn’t even what really gets to me about this. The most annoying part is that it’s quite often being done for records that were readily available on the second-hand market. It’s a pretty ridiculous situation when people will buy old records at new prices in large amounts, but need to have new music be ‘limited’ in order to make a purchase. We’re inundated with old music being re-released to make money, while new music is sold to as few people as possible to make the hype machine spin.

Deluxe box sets and hand-stamped white labels are two sides of the same coin. Some of these box sets are insanely expensive, including everything from an air freshener to a t-shirt to a poster to a book and more. This smacks of gimmickry, using something outside of the music to sell what is essentially product with a higher profit margin. I have no problem with merchandise, but if I want that stuff I’ll purchase it separately.

Hand-stamped white labels have basically the same aim, but go the opposite route to achieve it. Instead of the gimmick being all the added-on crap that doesn’t matter, their gimmick is that of it being “just about the music”. Most times this is tied in directly to the artificially limited pressings discussed earlier, with some of the most notable labels over the past few years having been almost completely ignored until taking this route. Artwork and any other information is really sacrificed here, yet the prices on these records don’t seem to be any less than records with regular sleeves and artwork. This alone should set off alarm bells in the minds of record buyers. With box sets you’re often forced to spend more than you want for way too much. With hand-stamped, plain-sleeved releases you’re usually paying regular prices for way too little.

In the end, as a long-time record buyer who hopes to continue doing so, these strategies all seem very short-sighted. We need more artists who love vinyl but also want to make their music available and sell it based on the merit of the music embedded in the grooves. Basic Channel are a great example. Despite their records being constantly in press for 20 years and just about every DJ hammering them in clubs, they’re still considered ‘cool’ and new record buyers can easily order the vinyl and enjoy it the way it was always meant to be.

Unfortunately there are way too few labels interested in taking this kind of long-term approach to selling their music. There are are a handful of notable exceptions. Theo Parrish will repress regularly, though not keeping his whole catalogue available. (This still doesn’t stop the resale mongers from trying to jack up the prices on his records – which have already been priced higher than normal with the idea of discouraging just that practice.) Omar-S also keeps his releases in print – and, even more distinctively, for sale at less than standard shop prices if you buy directly from him.

However, it seems most labels are caught chasing the short money to the detriment of the perceived timeless quality of the music being released. With records not being available, how many potential buyers are losing out on being able to have some of the best music, or are forced to prop up used record resellers at inflated prices if they choose to own the releases in their intended format?

That’s the essence of record collecting for me. It’s not about the exclusive rush to get the rarest record, nor all the other marketing that gets piled on top. It’s about having the best music in the best-sounding format. (“Best-sounding” may even be up for debate, but it likely doesn’t involve coloured vinyl or picture discs, both of which degrade quicker than regular black vinyl, or 180 gram pressings which really add only to the cost and to the weight of your record bag and not the sound quality.) Hopefully as the newer record buyers become more savvy, they’ll see past the gimmicks and we’ll have a vinyl culture that continues to grow and be meaningful. If the gimmicks win out, I guess there are always digital downloads.
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Post by dickman69 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:43 pm

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Post by ezza » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:47 pm

they feel nice when they spinnin n u touch them

other than that

who cares

still prefer them for that reason tho
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Re: "We Need To Talk About Vinyl"

Post by dickman69 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:53 pm

^ serato m8

i used to like vinyl now it actually pisses me off

vinyl only release means i have to buy it & then rip it to my comp... what a pain, just do vinyl + digi
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Post by Riddles » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:07 pm

rayman612 wrote:^ serato m8

i used to like vinyl now it actually pisses me off

vinyl only release means i have to buy it & then rip it to my comp... what a pain, just do vinyl + digi
100% should be vinyl and digital.
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Post by soronery » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:25 pm

this is why i prefer buying from bandcamp. a lot of the independent labels and artists on there give you download codes when you purchase vinyl.
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Post by Harkat » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:26 pm

I'm not a huge vinyl obsessive or anything, but I have a stack and I like to cop stuff when I go to new cities. The sound quality of vinyl is also better than itunes etc, if not 30MB FLAC files.

A big thing admittedly is just the record shops themselves. It's cool to have a daytime, walk-in place to access that culture. I guess if it's forced like that you can't really call it the true culture or whatever though.
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Post by _ronzlo_ » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:55 pm

Peak oil = built in limiting mechanism innit.
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Post by Genevieve » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:03 pm

Vinyl fandom, when it isn't for a practical reason (like DJ'ing), is nothing more than materialism or conservatism to me in the digital age. I get the best quality buying wav or flac digital, for the best money, with the least hassle. Something being 'tangible' doesn't add any value to me. Tunes are tunes
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Post by Harkat » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:01 pm

Maybe you're right Genevieve.

I like BUYING vinyl records probably more than listening to them. The experience of being in a shop, looking through em, putting em on and hearing them for the first time in there, chatting to people, looking at flyers/posters, etc. It's also cool to be in a different city, look up a record shop and walk somewhere you otherwise wouldn't, and maybe you'll get lucky and find some music that's meaningful or cool to you out there. Like, I recently came upon a 90's photek 12 in Zurich, in a shop with very little electronica and that experience is really cool. I mean, this specific single isn't on digital either, but that's only half the fun. That level of intiutiveness isn't replicated by listening/buying digitally. Also, I'm a lot less likely to buy something I don't really like on vinyl lol.

But at the end of the day, I think it's fair to say all of that is contrived and could be replicated as you please without any weird physical limitation FORCING you to have those experiences.
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Post by dickman69 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:36 pm

Harkat wrote:I'm a lot less likely to buy something I don't really like on vinyl lol.
From what you just said, sounds like the opposite is true
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Post by legend4ry » Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:51 pm

I like going to a record shop, digging around and buying something I probably never would but I ain't as vinyl loving as I once was.

Its just kinda what I do on a Saturday afternoon when i'm bored and no ones around. I just buy vinyl to listen to these days because there is a hell of a lot of music what hasn't been digitalised because its just been forgotten about or was never big in the first place, there is some right gems - spesh in the psyche sort of area.

Saying that though, I don't actively DJ it anymore which is ironic cause I had a vinyl-only radio show for 4 years and used to turn down bookings if they didn't have 12**s but I will buy a tune I like on wax if it comes with free digital. Just cause its nice to have.
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Post by mks » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:32 pm

Going record digging in shops and thrift stores used to be one of my favourite past times.

Now that shit is too heavy once I had accumulated more that 5000 records.

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Post by mks » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:42 pm

With that said, I'm about to put some BT Express pon di turntable.
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Post by rockonin » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:55 pm

I've never owned a vinyl in my life and probably never will.
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Post by wolf89 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:26 pm

I like the process of actually playing records physical records and not doing anything else at the same time and will listen to music I own on vinyl way more often than other formats and will also listen to complete albums more often too. Shit on a hard drive gets forgotten really really easily for me whereas a few thousand records on a shelf is quick to spot things in while browsing through them. I've got records I bought over 10 years ago I still play where as I have lost or forgotten loads of digital music. They're better to dj with, the coloration of the sound is pleasant and to release a record it tends to require a mastering engineer that has actually some idea of what they're doing so the sound quality can often be better too compared to some digital only releases. The credits and label identity make associations with new musical discoveries easier to pick up and can offer more interesting information on older releases for the nerdy type of listener like me that likes the historical aspect of piecing together who did what, when and where in and how that all fits in to a broader picture of what was happening in music then. Also I have in the past been mates with record store owners and could spend a whole afternoon in one store chatting shit with them and sharing in listening to all the new stuff that comes in.

That's it. I don't give a fuck if it's limited edition. I avoid picture discs and even coloured vinyl for sound quality purposes and I never buy a record that I don't play. I don't care if people have all these theories about it being elitist, consumerist, hipster, nerdy, out dated or whatever because I know that I truly love listening to records more than any other format for all the reasons I listed above.

I agree though labels need to do the digital download thing more. Just so I can put shit on my phone and listen to it travelling places
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Post by cyclopian » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:15 am

^ You summed my feelings up exactly on the subject.
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Re: "We Need To Talk About Vinyl"

Post by mks » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:18 am

DJ'ing with vinyl is straight up more fun. It's what I started out with and what I fell in love with in the first place.

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Post by bennyfroobs » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:58 am

i like big artwork

feels like im supporting an actual industry of real brehs instead of some rich randomjewishmillionare in suit who owns itunes or beatport or whatever and doesnt really need any more money than they already have

plus imo playing 1 tune at a time makes u sit there and think about the tune and appreciate it more, instead of just flipping through mazillions of wavs


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wolf89 wrote:Shit on a hard drive gets forgotten really really easily for me whereas a few thousand records on a shelf is quick to spot things in while browsing through them. I've got records I bought over 10 years ago I still play where as I have lost or forgotten loads of digital music.

and u cant crate dig mp3s.........
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