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#GamerGate

Post by wub » Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:56 am

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i originally didnt want to include that infographic because it glosses over the beginnings and how/why the mainstream media is playing this off as sexism/misogyny but if itll cut down on people cluttering up the thread with bitching about links then fine.

here is a link that best explains the first couple of weeks and how it all got started. its like 8000 words long and includes a bunch of screen grabs so its just easier to click

http://robsimple.wordpress.com/2014/08/ ... pocalypse/

here is a much up to date but not as in depth recap

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/gamergate

here is the actual blog post that sparked it all off

http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/2014/08 ... -accurate/






https://encyclopediadramatica.es/GamerGate
TLDR for TLDR:

A game developer fucked some dudes to advance her career, and when people started asking questions, the gaming press refused to investigate, and instead attacked anyone calling for investigation. Now it's increasing clear that the gaming press is totally corrupt.

Here's the expanded TLDR for anyone that is still scratching their heads:

A short while back, the ex boyfriend of an indie game developer decided to air some of their dirty laundry publicly, this included details of 5 alleged affairs. Gamers started connecting the dots, and realized that the game developer in question had apparently had a sexual relationship with multiple people that were in a position to help her career.

When gamers began asking questions, the gaming press dismissed the very notion of there being anything improper, and immediately labeled anyone who even dared to ask questions as trolls. Gamers, often having more than a little of the 'tism in them (said with love, and credit goes to Internet Aristocrat), were undeterred, and started uncovering more evidence of corruption in the gaming press and indie games scene. The gaming press responded in a coordinated campaign of articles released almost exactly at the same time, declaring the "death of gamers" - meaning that anybody who still identified as a gamer was a white male basement dwelling misogynist.

A bunch of non male/white/cis/hetero/etc. gamers got really offended at being characterized as white male basement dwelling misogynists by people claiming to be defending "everyone else" so they started a whole new movement to examine the corruption in the video game press and beyond.

The two movements are #GamerGate (the original call for investigation) and #NotYourShield (the backlash of the non male/white/cis/hetero/etc.) gamers.

The gaming press ignores the legitimate calls for investigation, and instead focuses on trolling and shit flinging, claiming that everyone calling for investigation is just as bad as the trolls and shit flingers.

Breitbart drops a nuclear bomb on the issue, by releasing details of a secret mailing list that the members of the gaming press have, in fact, been using to collude on the issue the whole time.

Hope that helps!

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Re: #GamerGate

Post by topmo3 » Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:48 pm

that's a lot of useless informaiton
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Post by wub » Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:59 pm

cis scum

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Post by ehbes » Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:57 pm

so she slept her way to the top? doesnt that happen in most industries?
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Post by wub » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:07 pm

ehbes wrote:so she slept her way to the top? doesnt that happen in most industries?
Yes

Most industries don't close ranks when it's been exposed though in such a manner.

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Post by sixs » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:08 pm

please be considerate and add a trigger warning to the thread title
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Post by Riddles » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:45 pm

Yeah saw all this when it happened. Some deadout "(female game dev"(read: i am discriminated against and I'm really good, fucking male pigs wont give me a chance etc) got loads of kickstarter money to make some shitty game, then cheated on her man with bare critics to get good reviews. While the game is shit and what the reviewers did is bad, 90% of game reviews are shit anyway, targeted at 13 year old boys and nothing gets ranked under a 7/10. Tbh if the game reviewer said "a girl banged me to give it a good review" in the review, the readers would laugh and think it was awesome.

The whole game critic stuff is shit, and if you want a decent review you usually have to go to smaller, online reviewers rather than printed magazines or the larger websites.
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Post by kidshuffle » Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:03 pm

Cringe thread is that way >
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Post by NickUndercover » Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:30 pm

Add to that the fact that Phil Fish might take 20 years for racketeering and the vidya world is upside down.
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Post by Harkat » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:48 pm

NickUndercover wrote:Add to that the fact that Phil Fish might take 20 years for racketeering and the vidya world is upside down.
hahaha what? Thats nuts.

On topic tho, this has been one of the stupidest controversies ever, and a good reminder of why I no longer really go on games forums.

ZQ didn't "sleep her way to the top". The original blogs made by her ex bf even specifically said that's not the case. She works among gaming people, including critics, and she cheated on her bf with them. The ones she slept with didnt even write reviews of her game.

All this shit has "uncovered" was that shes prolly not a very nice person and that shes terrible to be in a relationship with. Theres no fucking conspiracy or journalistic integrity scandal, that's just something spun into existence by a chinese whispers among game fan neckbeards who don't like ZQ.

For the record, I think ZQ probably doesn't really deserve the positions she gets. Her "game" is the same type of art-gamey deal you've seen in browsers forever, nothing revolutionary. The attention came from the legit misogynist harassment she was getting, which a lot of women in gaming get. In an effort to prove themselves as the most progressive, and not a part of the gamer neckbeard mob, publications, conventions, gaming companies etc have all been tripping over themselves to give ZQ the time of day even though she hasn't really contributed to games in a real way. Her case is a sad example of a pretty shit part of online gaming culture, she most certainly doesn't deserve the harassment, but she hasn't really done anything relevant.

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Re: #GamerGate

Post by collige » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:24 pm

Harkat wrote:
NickUndercover wrote:Add to that the fact that Phil Fish might take 20 years for racketeering and the vidya world is upside down.
hahaha what? Thats nuts.

On topic tho, this has been one of the stupidest controversies ever, and a good reminder of why I no longer really go on games forums.

ZQ didn't "sleep her way to the top". The original blogs made by her ex bf even specifically said that's not the case. She works among gaming people, including critics, and she cheated on her bf with them. The ones she slept with didnt even write reviews of her game.

All this shit has "uncovered" was that shes prolly not a very nice person and that shes terrible to be in a relationship with. Theres no fucking conspiracy or journalistic integrity scandal, that's just something spun into existence by a chinese whispers among game fan neckbeards who don't like ZQ.

For the record, I think ZQ probably doesn't really deserve the positions she gets. Her "game" is the same type of art-gamey deal you've seen in browsers forever, nothing revolutionary. The attention came from the legit misogynist harassment she was getting, which a lot of women in gaming get. In an effort to prove themselves as the most progressive, and not a part of the gamer neckbeard mob, publications, conventions, gaming companies etc have all been tripping over themselves to give ZQ the time of day even though she hasn't really contributed to games in a real way. Her case is a sad example of a pretty shit part of online gaming culture, she most certainly doesn't deserve the harassment, but she hasn't really done anything relevant.

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Re: #GamerGate

Post by vax » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:36 pm

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Post by deadly_habit » Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:32 am

Bit late on it, did my own blog post on gamasutra in a bit of drunken haze a few days ago. Been following it since the whole 5 guys thing and that is so not what it's about.
Some of my comments of the gamers are dead shit riled some feathers as well if you follow gamasutra (if not i's a site for devs and business side of things)
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/MikeHigb ... _Media.php

http://www.nichegamer.net/ has had some great coverage, interviews. and quotes from devs and studios as well on the whole thing.

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Re: #GamerGate

Post by test_recordings » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:17 pm

What happened to just asking people who've played it, and free demos
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Re: #GamerGate

Post by NickUndercover » Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:53 pm

I guess everyone has had enough of games being called "revolutionary" when they're just tryhard artsy.

Like The Stanley Parable. I mean okay it's a good game and the devs deserve some support but it's not the 8,8/10 revolution in storytelling that IGN claims it to be
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Post by deadly_habit » Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:01 pm

test_recordings wrote:What happened to just asking people who've played it, and free demos
Sadly demos lock out features a lot of the time plus day one DLC and preordering. I miss old school physical magazines where before the reviews they had the bios of the reviewers including their favorite genre and games so you could be like yeah that's like me their review might line up with what i like... plus sushi x.
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Fuck I miss people being like oh a 6 or 7, that sounds like a solid game instead of it not being a 9 or 10 it's trash.

Also this is great

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Post by test_recordings » Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:23 am

I'd say the obsession with high scores on reviews is just grade inflation
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Post by dickman69 » Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:33 am

I watched 1 of he videos in wubs OP


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Post by Phigure » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:10 am

ive seen the name zoe quinn pop up so many times the last few weeks and i still cant bring myself to care
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Post by nowaysj » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:45 am

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