'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by nobody » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:27 am

no one has tried to justify alcoholism in this thread, you're just attention seeking making posts like that!
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by nobody » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:34 am

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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by topmo3 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:56 pm

honestly it's hard to know whether you're taking the piss terpit. but my guess is that this is some really elaborate joke and you honestly love ganja yourself. I mean a second ago you recommended benzos for a hangover remedy and now you're suddenly so worried about the dangers of pot smoking?
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by dickman69 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:36 pm

iirc terpit was known to talk at length about hash so yea
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by mIrReN » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:24 pm

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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by faultier » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:44 pm

tbf, i've seen cannabis usage exacerbate mental issues with a few friends

don't think that smoking weed will necessarily make every user a psychotic, but it can have adverse effects on some people for sure

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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by DrGatineau » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:54 pm

topmo3 wrote:honestly it's hard to know whether you're taking the piss terpit.
no it's not. nobody just thinks weed is an awful drug i reckon (which is well true).

big up nobody doing big tings for the snh massive we need blokes like you round these ends i mean it blud.
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by sigbowls » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:03 pm

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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by DrGatineau » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:08 pm

i don't hate it for the record and i don't anyone in this thread does either.
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Post by sigbowls » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:13 pm

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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by sigbowls » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:44 am

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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by Dystinkt » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:10 am

I actually just read the report the BBC story was based on, and my summary would be this-

1- what the fuck is skunk, ive honestly never heard that terminology used by anyone selling me weed or anyone buying it, i just susbstituted that word everytime in my head for 'peng draws' (which makes the report a lot funnier to read)
2- this study says that hash and resin is basically safe, which is fine by me!!

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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by Phigure » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:21 am

Dystinkt wrote:2- this study says that hash and resin is basically safe, which is fine by me!!
this part is actually totally incorrect, concentrates almost always have a higher ratio of thc to cbd and would be more likely to contribute to the "psychosis" theyre talking about
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by mks » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:24 am

Especially hash made from "skunk-like cannabis".

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Post by cyclopian » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:06 am

Phigure wrote:
Dystinkt wrote:2- this study says that hash and resin is basically safe, which is fine by me!!
this part is actually totally incorrect, concentrates almost always have a higher ratio of thc to cbd and would be more likely to contribute to the "psychosis" theyre talking about
not to mention most low grade hash has a boat load of shitty chemical residue from the extraction still inna mix
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by test_recordings » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:56 am

I have some bones to pick with the study, and everyone jumping on to the BBC editorial line that 'drugs are bad, duhh'.

A) Correlation only, the authors don't even doesn't jump to conclusions on it with pg.5 stating "...if a causal role for cannabis is assumed, skunk use alone was responsible for 24% of those adults presenting with first-episode psychosis to the psychiatric services in south London" (emphasis added). Even the background to the study in the first paragraph says "We aimed to investigate how frequent use of skunk-like (high-potency) cannabis in south London affected the association between cannabis and psychotic disorders." (emphasis added).

B) London only, with urban areas having slightly worse mental health than rural areas (http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/188/1/51.full).

C) All self-report, no drug tests to corroborate whether participants even had drugs in them if they said they did.

D) No multidimensional analysis of participants, just matching single demographic variables to having a psychotic variable or not. There's no comparison between, say, never had a job and smoked/not smoked weed and had/not had a psychotic episode. This is particularly of concern as there was an over-representation of black/Afro-Caribbean participants compared to the general population and there is substantial showing that group to be more likely to be referred to mental health services anyway. Also, even the study authors note that a substantial amount of people who refused to participate were of black/Afro-Caribbean ethnicity so a more systematic nationwide approach to data collection should be considered for future studies.

I could pick out more, anyone jumping on the same conclusion as the BBC is a tosspot and I'm going to complain to the British Psychological Society about misrepresentation of scientific research. It's just that word 'suggests', puts ideas in the scientists mouths when something like 'skunk-like cannabis linked to increased risk of psychosis'. The BBC probably didn't choose that headline though because 'link' means 'maybe yes, maybe no' to the public and people are bored of the word, so why not sex it up with 'suggest' to make it sound more unequivocal...
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by nobody » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:06 pm

There are plenty of articles online saying the same shit, with more sources, they aren't hard to find. It's not that 'drugs are bad, duhh', it's that there are so many ignorant people who think smoking weed has no impact on mental health, duhh, it does.
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

Post by CreamLord » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:27 pm

Once again, any drug has the potential to do harm, just some people are more likely to be harmed than others while others will suffer very little
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Re: 'Skunk-like cannabis' increases risk of psychosis

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