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Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Post by DrGatineau » Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:05 am

Smh at how many people don't know why the riots are happening. Someone even said to me "it seems so random"....

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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryla ... llery.html

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryla ... story.html

Here's the only footage of the incident that I'm aware of. There are some other vids from other angles I think but nothing from earlier in the arrest (afaik).



Here's some video of the riots



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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Post by Molzie » Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:09 am

lol merica

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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Post by OGLemon » Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:12 am

Fight the power.

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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Post by mks » Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:34 am

What a bunch of fuckery.




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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Post by ehbes » Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:07 am

tired of seeing stuffy white people cover this like they understand the struggle of minorities. I get so enraged when they say shit like "They should just peacefully demonstrate like MLK" :a:
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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

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Post by Phigure » Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:52 am

mlk himself said "riot is the language of the unheard"
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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Post by ehbes » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:14 am

Phigure wrote:mlk himself said "riot is the language of the unheard"
not in white people history m7
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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Post by mason666 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:55 am

ehbes wrote:tired of seeing stuffy white people cover this like they understand the struggle of minorities. I get so enraged when they say shit like "They should just peacefully demonstrate like MLK" :a:
Looòooooooooooooooool and you do understand the struggle?
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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Post by DrGatineau » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:35 am

it's a recessive gene :/
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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Post by soronery » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:46 am

Let's look at root cause analysis, rather than the reactive sympathizing/condemning of the protestors themselves.

Police brutality is an issue, or it seems to be more so recently since the Michael Brown case. Not that police weren't giving people a slap before, just that it's more prevalent in the current (social) media climate.

I'm in favor of having all police wearing body cameras which transmit/stream all the time. All police can then be held accountable for their actions, and more importantly would have video footage of whether they thought someone was a threat (i.e. "I thought he had a gun", we watch the videos and see if it looked like he had a gun).

Violent protesting/looting in this manner isn't something I agree with, but the police do seem to bring it on themselves by failing to take action to prevent the alleged brutality from taking place to begin with.
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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Post by orangeluva56 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:14 am

rioting when a white cop kills a black guy is the flavor of the month
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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Post by ultraspatial » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:39 am

what will those wacky minorities think of next

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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Post by DJoe » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:09 pm

body cameras is a good idea as it promotes police accountability, but it doesn't really solve the problem at the cause. which is racial ideology informing policing and the employment of people who either have a lack of sufficient training or are uneducated enough to cause tensions within communities through policing.

if a group of people are provoked to the point of civil disobedience and rioting, it seems ridiculous to just brush it under the carpet as mindless criminality and looting. the fact that these people are willing to damage their community highlights the desperation of the situation. these people are so disenfranchised they are willing to attack cops and destroy property that to some extent exists to aid their community and selves. if you think mindless criminality is enough to push a significant number of people to doing this you're wrong
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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Post by OGLemon » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:21 pm

Today's police brutality is a reflection of America's unique connection to slavery. The emancipation of the slaves may have brought freedom, but the act was not a social revolution. When I say social revolution, I mean the end of racism. The continuation of prevalent institutional racism continued until the 60s. With the "victories" of the civil rights movement, upper class whites were able to solve the dissonance between the popular call for equality and their desire for power and money. A new "post-racial" America was ushered in, and it was now common to see Black and White friends in movies.

The fundamental problem with race in America is that the contradictions between the objectives of the poor Blacks and upper class Whites has never been solved. This problem will never be solved unless capitalism is destroyed. But why capitalism? The nature of private property and wage salary insures that classes exist in society. The classes have different goals, so to resolve the tension people engage in class struggle (riots, stealing commodities, destruction of property). In a system were classes cannot exist, the ideological reasons for racial inequality will disappear. The failings of the 20th century's revolutions shows that this goal is very difficult to accomplish. However, the potential for the internet to increase class consciousness is hopeful.

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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Post by DJoe » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:27 pm

yeah i probs agree with some of the stuff there but you sound like a member of some marxist book group. why not start with the basics and improve policing to the point where discrimination and brutality isnt a problem. thats an easy fix. and one that most countries in the world need
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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Post by OGLemon » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:36 pm

It will never happen. Violence against the poor is necessary, "to keep them in their place".

Reforms only affect the outside layer. Did the civil rights movement bring equality? Hell no. The reforms are merely symbolic measures to pacify the people. The welfare state pacifies workers. So many examples. Instead to constantly reforming, why not change the system? The end of feudalism required violence and bourgeois revolution. It's not a stretch to assume capitalism will require the same.
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Re: Baltimore and the death of Freddie Gray

Post by soronery » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:38 pm

OGLemon wrote:Did the civil rights movement bring equality? Hell no. The reforms are merely symbolic measures to pacify the people.
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