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another nice one from the RIAA

Post by misk » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:50 pm

An Urgent Message From Marilyn Bergman

January 28, 2008

To All ASCAP Members,

Over the years, ASCAP has worked tirelessly to convince Congress and the courts that all songwriters, composers and music publishers are entitled to fair compensation for their copyrighted musical works. As you know, ASCAP represents the performing right, a large and growing part of your compensation. But mechanical and synchronization rights are also a critical element of your livelihood.

Today, the Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) begins a hearing that will determine mechanical rates for every songwriter and music publisher in America. It will be critical because, in addition to setting rates for physical products, rates will be set for the first time ever for digital products such as digital downloads, subscription services and ringtones.

Our friends at The National Music Publishers' Association (NMPA) will be representing the mechanical right interests of songwriters and music publishers in this hearing. They will be fighting vigorously to protect those mechanical right interests to ensure that musical compositions are compensated fairly. On the other side of this fight stands the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and the Digital Media Association (DiMA). Both the RIAA and DiMA have proposed significant reductions in mechanical royalty rates that would be disastrous for songwriters and music publishers.

David Israelite, NMPA President and CEO tells us, "The current rate for physical phonorecords is 9.1 cents. The RIAA has proposed slashing the rate to approximately 6 cents a song - a cut of more than one-third the current rate! For permanent digital downloads, NMPA is proposing a rate of 15 cents per track because the costs involved are much less than for physical products. The RIAA has proposed the outrageous rate of approximately 5 - 5.5 cents per track, and DiMA is proposing even less. For interactive streaming services, which some analysts believe will be the future of the music industry, NMPA is proposing a rate of the greater of 12.5% of revenue, 27.5% of content costs, or a micro-penny calculation based on usage. The RIAA actually proposed that songwriters and music publishers should get the equivalent of .58% of revenue. And DiMA is taking the position that songwriters' and music publishers' mechanical rights should be zero, because DiMA does not believe we have any such rights!"

Irwin Robinson, ASCAP Board member and Chairman of the NMPA added, "Our opponents in this hearing are proposing a rate structure which would have devastating consequences for songwriters, composers and music publishers trying to make a living, now or in the future." The initial hearing will last four weeks, followed by a rebuttal hearing in May, and a final decision expected on October 2. Among the ASCAP writer members testifying at the hearing are Rick Carnes, Phil Galdston, and Board member Stephen Paulus.

And while all this is going on, ASCAP has been leading the fight for fair performance right compensation in Federal Court against DiMA members AOL, Yahoo! and RealNetworks. Our case has been heard and we expect an outcome this summer.

Clearly these are perilous times for those of us that create the music that generates profit for those that use our music. But remember this, there would be no profit without our musical compositions that they are fighting to use so freely.




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Post by vonboyage » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:52 pm

What does this mean in the long run?

I half understood it.
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Post by misk » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:56 pm

in the states, if you have a song registered with ascap, you will be getting less for mechanicals, as well as lower penny royalties for each record sold - be it a real physical object or not.

the RIAA attacked the consumers, and now they're attacking the artists.

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Post by shonky » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:57 pm

Vonboyage wrote:What does this mean in the long run?
Music industry people are stnuc and are getting cuntier
Hmm....

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Post by vonboyage » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:01 pm

Misk wrote:in the states, if you have a song registered with ascap, you will be getting less for mechanicals, as well as lower penny royalties for each record sold - be it a real physical object or not.

the RIAA attacked the consumers, and now they're attacking the artists.
That is deep

Why are they doing that though, why slash the wrists of the artists, seriously.
Shonky wrote:
Vonboyage wrote:What does this mean in the long run?
Music industry people are stnuc and are getting cuntier
Pretty much
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Post by datura » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:06 pm

Shonky wrote:
Vonboyage wrote:What does this mean in the long run?
Music industry people are stnuc and are getting cuntier
They need to get you on newsnight. Why say in 5 mins what you can sum up in a nice concise sentence.
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Post by shonky » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:06 pm

Vonboyage wrote:
Why are they doing that though, why slash the wrists of the artists, seriously.
Less money in the music industry, music executives don't see why they should have to be the one's that suffer. I see every reason why music executives should suffer though
Hmm....

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Post by oddfellow » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:10 pm

Shonky wrote:
Vonboyage wrote:
Why are they doing that though, why slash the wrists of the artists, seriously.
Less money in the music industry, music executives don't see why they should have to be the one's that suffer. I see every reason why music executives should suffer though
Just greed. They will still be making millions, just not as many.

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Post by shonky » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:18 pm

Tomity wrote:
Shonky wrote:
Vonboyage wrote:
Why are they doing that though, why slash the wrists of the artists, seriously.
Less money in the music industry, music executives don't see why they should have to be the one's that suffer. I see every reason why music executives should suffer though
Just greed. They will still be making millions, just not as many.
And remember, they'll only spend it on drugs :roll:

Mind you if I was that rich I probably would too
Hmm....

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Post by oddfellow » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:32 pm

Shonky wrote:
Tomity wrote:
Shonky wrote:
Vonboyage wrote:
Why are they doing that though, why slash the wrists of the artists, seriously.
Less money in the music industry, music executives don't see why they should have to be the one's that suffer. I see every reason why music executives should suffer though
Just greed. They will still be making millions, just not as many.
And remember, they'll only spend it on drugs :roll:

Mind you if I was that rich I probably would too
Indeed. Drugs and fancy chocolate.

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Post by RubiconMan » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:05 pm

Shonky wrote:
Vonboyage wrote:
Why are they doing that though, why slash the wrists of the artists, seriously.
Less money in the music industry, music executives don't see why they should have to be the one's that suffer. I see every reason why music executives should suffer though
well put.
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Post by tempest » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:16 pm

fuck em, music doesn't need these fatcats to live on :x

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Post by ivysomething » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:40 am

looks like it's back to the street corner with headphones and burned cds...

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Post by skrewface » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:43 pm

ivysomething wrote:looks like it's back to the street corner with headphones and burned cds...
Audiophile streetworker?

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Post by thesynthesist » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:54 pm

Well, really, ASCAP and the PRO's are fighting this, thats the point. RIAA has PROPOSED a cut, we'll see if it happens (probably will) but this message is a sign that there is a serious fight at hand.

Regardless of your thoughts on "Industry" people, this effects anyone who likes/listens to music, in some trickle-down way.

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Post by ivysomething » Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:51 am

skrewface wrote:
ivysomething wrote:looks like it's back to the street corner with headphones and burned cds...
Audiophile streetworker?
:) never done it myself

love the guys here in LA that do it tho...
they'll even come up to your car window while you're at the stop light, "hey mama! pop this in yo stereo right now! track two!"

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