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Need your advice!

Post by dignan » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:07 pm

I'm looking into buying a live sound system because I'm working on getting a monthly dubstep night in my shitty, boring town and was wondering if this setup would be good for a small to medium room, definitely no more than 50-80 people:

one of these - http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... sku=600433

and

two of these - http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... sku=600430

suggestions/advice would be greatly appreciated! :D

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Re: Need your advice!

Post by serox » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:14 pm

dignan wrote:I'm looking into buying a live sound system because I'm working on getting a monthly dubstep night in my shitty, boring town and was wondering if this setup would be good for a small to medium room, definitely no more than 50-80 people:

one of these - http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... sku=600433

and

two of these - http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... sku=600430

suggestions/advice would be greatly appreciated! :D
Very overpriced for what you are actually getting.

I would search Ebay for people selling amps and speakers tbh.
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Re: Need your advice!

Post by dignan » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:44 pm

serox wrote:
dignan wrote:I'm looking into buying a live sound system because I'm working on getting a monthly dubstep night in my shitty, boring town and was wondering if this setup would be good for a small to medium room, definitely no more than 50-80 people:

one of these - http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... sku=600433

and

two of these - http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... sku=600430

suggestions/advice would be greatly appreciated! :D
Very overpriced for what you are actually getting.

I would search Ebay for people selling amps and speakers tbh.
i definitely give ebay a look... would those 3 speakers be loud enough for a small, medium room?

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Re: Need your advice!

Post by jolly wailer » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:46 pm

just was speaking with a retired JBL installer who told me to "avoid JBL" :lol:
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Post by dignan » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:50 pm

jolly wailer wrote:just was speaking with a retired JBL installer who told me to "avoid JBL" :lol:
damn lol - as you can tell i'm kind of live sound ignorant....

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Post by djake » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:52 pm

i say it too everyone, look into building your own seriously!

check - http://forum.speakerplans.com/

for info and everything related to rigs!

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Post by tripaddict » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:59 pm

'makie' speakers :) im saying no more they're amazing.

these ...

http://www.mackie.com/products/c300z/

or these ...

http://www.mackie.com/products/th-15a/

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Post by dignan » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:48 pm

tripaddict wrote:'makie' speakers :) im saying no more they're amazing.

these ...

http://www.mackie.com/products/c300z/

or these ...

http://www.mackie.com/products/th-15a/
those look nice and they're not too expensive either, would you recommend the subwoofer as well?

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Post by ELLFIVEDEE » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:52 pm

Ebay or Build your own for sure I'd say!

Then you get more for your buck ;)
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Post by djake » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:54 pm

ELLFIVEDEE wrote:Ebay or Build your own for sure I'd say!

Then you get more for your buck ;)
building your own is fun too.

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Re: Need your advice!

Post by dignan » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:49 pm

anyone else have any suggestions?

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Post by tripaddict » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:15 pm

dignan wrote:
tripaddict wrote:'makie' speakers :) im saying no more they're amazing.

these ...

http://www.mackie.com/products/c300z/

or these ...

http://www.mackie.com/products/th-15a/
those look nice and they're not too expensive either, would you recommend the subwoofer as well?
seriously those speakers are amazing ... i cant remember if we had 15/16/17" makies in our setup but we used those and some HK PA subs in a room with 250-280 and it was LOUD and crystal clear ...

http://www.hkaudio.com/products_ovv.php5

^^ its in german ... these are more expensive than the makies but you'd only need one they too are also amazing speakers

this would have some poke .... http://www.hkaudio.com/products.php5?section=cs&id=72
^^Frequenzgang +/-3 dB: 42 Hz – fx
pure sub bass not even to 50hz omg :twisted:

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Re: Need your advice!

Post by dignan » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:48 pm

tripaddict wrote:
dignan wrote:
tripaddict wrote:'makie' speakers :) im saying no more they're amazing.

these ...

http://www.mackie.com/products/c300z/

or these ...

http://www.mackie.com/products/th-15a/
those look nice and they're not too expensive either, would you recommend the subwoofer as well?
seriously those speakers are amazing ... i cant remember if we had 15/16/17" makies in our setup but we used those and some HK PA subs in a room with 250-280 and it was LOUD and crystal clear ...

http://www.hkaudio.com/products_ovv.php5

^^ its in german ... these are more expensive than the makies but you'd only need one they too are also amazing speakers

this would have some poke .... http://www.hkaudio.com/products.php5?section=cs&id=72
^^Frequenzgang +/-3 dB: 42 Hz – fx
pure sub bass not even to 50hz omg :twisted:

I've found some good deals on the Mackie speakers on ebay so I'm most likely gonna go with those. would 2 of the 15 inch PAs and 1 sub be loud enough for a small room with less than 80 people?

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Post by tripaddict » Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:07 am

id recommend you look for an online audio calculator to calculate the optimum speaker & power output combinations for a specific sized room ... as im not an audio engineer i can just give you an opinion on equipment

... id google audio power / room size calculation / calculator / formula / equation ill see if i can find one for you ;0)

first one in google ...
http://www.crownaudio.com/apps_htm/desi ... wr-req.htm

im sure there are many more ... and its worth double checking your results (some times these calculators are in accurate)

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Post by dignan » Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:53 am

tripaddict wrote:id recommend you look for an online audio calculator to calculate the optimum speaker & power output combinations for a specific sized room ... as im not an audio engineer i can just give you an opinion on equipment

... id google audio power / room size calculation / calculator / formula / equation ill see if i can find one for you ;0)

first one in google ...
http://www.crownaudio.com/apps_htm/desi ... wr-req.htm

im sure there are many more ... and its worth double checking your results (some times these calculators are in accurate)
do you know what I should type in for speaker sensitivity?

thanks for all your help btw!

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Post by tripaddict » Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:57 am

* Typical home loudspeakers have sensitivities of about 85 to 95 dB for 1 W @ 1 m—an efficiency of 0.5–4%.
* Sound reinforcement and public address loudspeakers have sensitivities of perhaps 95 to 102 dB for 1 W @ 1 m—an efficiency of 4–10%.
* Rock concert, stadium PA, marine hailing, etc. speakers generally have higher sensitivities of 103 to 110 dB for 1 W @ 1 m—an efficiency of 10–20%.
taken from ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudspeake ... ensitivity

id go with 110 u should check your the speakers db range tho if you want to be accurate


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Re: Need your advice!

Post by tripaddict » Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:51 pm

they'd be a good investment but i still think you'd need a sub with them ;)

for 80 people i think they'd do the job

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Post by tripaddict » Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:54 pm

i just checked on this

http://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html

they seem ok, but double check before you buy anything

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Re: Need your advice!

Post by dignan » Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:19 pm

tripaddict wrote:they'd be a good investment but i still think you'd need a sub with them ;)

for 80 people i think they'd do the job
for sure - I'm probably getting the Mackie sub as well. haven't found any great deals on them on ebay so I might just buy new.

thanks for all your help/advice man - really appreciate it!

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