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Postby Colourless » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:46 am

Someone, please, help me understand what the structure of a typical amen break is, and also if anyone knows of any 1960 style drum kits available for redrum, id be more than greatful.
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Postby mks » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:54 am

What are you trying to do? If you are working with an amen, I would chop that thing up and put it in your sampler. I see that you are on reason, you would be better off putting that thing in the nn-xt or whatever it is in reason. On redrum, that would be good for using the individual hits, but to get the flow, use sections of the break in your sampler.
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Postby deadly_habit » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:55 am

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Postby wormcode » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:34 am

Colourless wrote:Someone, please, help me understand what the structure of a typical amen break is

http://www.simonv.com/tutorials/drum_patterns.php
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Postby rubiconguava » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:06 am

yeh, cut it up in recycle, load it into your nnxt with each hit on a different key but still in the right order. Then load uip the entire break in rex, send it to track and then match the rex copy of it witht he midi notes on the nnxt. Once you have it sounding normal you can start fiddling round with it to make it more interesting. I dont use reason anymore, but this was the most effefctive way i found for dealing with breaks, if your in the nnxt its then very easy to reverse hits etc.
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Postby Nacklewicket » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:40 pm

easiest way to handle the amen break in fl studio, is to just load the whole amen sample into the slicex and pow you got all the hits on different notes still in the right order and you can rearrange and manage it any way you want cudnt be easier
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Postby tripaddict » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:51 pm

download > filter > chop > re-sequence

search for a track called amen my brother by the winstons ;)

or re-sample some old jungle amens :D
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Postby Brisance » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:29 pm

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Postby Ithiriul » Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:00 am

Is it just me or is the last thing we need more Amen breaks
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Postby ninjadog » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:00 am

Ithiriul wrote:Is it just me or is the last thing we need more Amen breaks

:z: [break]
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Postby JFK » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:25 am

Ithiriul wrote:Is it just me or is the last thing we need more Amen breaks


Used on its own yeah. But chopped up and messed about with it has endless potential still.
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Postby bob villain » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:38 am

JFK wrote:
Ithiriul wrote:Is it just me or is the last thing we need more Amen breaks


Used on its own yeah. But chopped up and messed about with it has endless potential still.


totally agree. Love hearing amens in a new way, even just one hit. Then I like spotting them when they're hidden, like ooh amen crash right there
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Postby JFK » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:41 am

bob villain wrote:
JFK wrote:
Ithiriul wrote:Is it just me or is the last thing we need more Amen breaks


Used on its own yeah. But chopped up and messed about with it has endless potential still.


totally agree. Love hearing amens in a new way, even just one hit. Then I like spotting them when they're hidden, like ooh amen crash right there


That is ridiculously geeky.

















I do exactly the same thing...... :)
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Postby kwami » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:51 pm

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Postby sully_harmitage » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:24 pm

thats a Think, not an Amen.
Those two + Funky Drummer = Holy Trinity of breaks.
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Postby step correct » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:37 pm

How about getting it to go 70 bpm with no obvious pitch changes??
6blocc is good at this and I can't figure out how to make it sound right.
Somone told me chop it and then use the little shaker bits to fill in the empty spaces.
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Postby step correct » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:39 pm

Oh and once you get it at 140 resample it and then just chop it into 3-5 bigger slices and try triggering those. Cool way to let the break retain it's integrity.. try triggering it on the snare... etc.
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Postby fassyman » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:49 pm

sully.harmitage wrote:thats a Think, not an Amen.
Those two + Funky Drummer = Holy Trinity of breaks.


tru dat
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Postby Bipolar » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:11 pm

Look for Dr.Rex files of Amen Original/Breaks on the internet, theres hundreds and thousands out there,

Find one you like and DL it, Dr.Rex files are great becuase theve already been cut in recycle, now you can open a Redrum and load the Hits in individualy.

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Postby ENNO » Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:44 am

Downlink is crazy for the amen breaks....give some of his tracks a listen. Theres a good use in the swagga remix!!
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