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grooki finishes his clip into a full song, then green plan listens to that and tries to turn his one into a full one in a way similar to how grooki did it etc etc.
then you'd end up with material for a full EP of variations on a theme, ain't that awesome?
(i'm only suggesting this because i want to have such an ep )
i felt like that each time a minute went by
ive liked a lot of those beats,
however far above all, grooki's one was my favourite.
not that he may have had more time to do it ( i dunnow if he himself went by the 48 h rule)... or that hes a well rounded beathead... (i tried to take that in consideration)
i just think his beat had a ''purpose''... it was not a mere collection of sounds hittin together.. it was a song...
that takes us back to the original comment.. (basic A's i guess)...
get ur influences in ur genre, but elsewhere too, and the biggest influence on ur music should be each sound preceding the next sound u put.. (if that makes any sense)
praise this forum that was a great thread
Sharmaji wrote:2011: the year of the calloused-from-overuse facepalm
that's my question too. lol. grayskale went before me. when i was done, i sent it to hakka & grooki. not sure what happened.Ldizzy wrote:ahahahahhaha where were you!?!?DJ Crackle wrote:was mine that bad?
Sh*t! I don't know what happened there! It wasn't because you're track was no good/totally excellent, that wasn't the point. I'll go and sort that out right now. Sorry!DJ Crackle wrote:that's my question too. lol. grayskale went before me. when i was done, i sent it to hakka & grooki. not sure what happened.Ldizzy wrote:ahahahahhaha where were you!?!?DJ Crackle wrote:was mine that bad?
hahah i was just fucking with ya man, i figured it was just some mix up. no worriesgrooki wrote:Sh*t! I don't know what happened there! It wasn't because you're track was no good/totally excellent, that wasn't the point. I'll go and sort that out right now. Sorry!DJ Crackle wrote:that's my question too. lol. grayskale went before me. when i was done, i sent it to hakka & grooki. not sure what happened.Ldizzy wrote:ahahahahhaha where were you!?!?DJ Crackle wrote:was mine that bad?
I just pulled 55 seconds of a track that I had taken some time making but had never finished, so I was worried that it was going to be too complicated for the game. As it turned out I think that having a more complex track was good idea, since it seemed that at each copying, some of the complexity of the track was lost, other elements got "locked in", other elements were added. If the track had been simpler to begin with we wouldn't have been able to see those changes.
For instance the chord-stabs in my part slowly became a reggae-style skank on the off beat, which stuck in people's minds much more easily than the more irregularly timed chords of my part. So once the reggae style skank was in, it was in. I would guess that if we had gone on for even 10 more incarnations that skank would have stayed.
It was really interesting to see how, in 3ZAs version he had bass drums and chords at first and added the melody only after a few bars - in the next version (Promise One's) the bass was also left out, and so an introduction was developing! I would guess that this "drop" which developed would not go away if we continued the experiment - since it is so conventional in electronic music people would remember as a feature of the track (like the riser)
Other conventions in dubstep (and electronic music) remained strong too - the "riser" in the first track managed to stay for three tracks even though it was a relatively small component of the original.
The complexity of the melody went down until it was relatively simple three note melody
The half step drums stayed half-step, but the complexity of the kick pattern went down until it was just a kick on the one and that was all. Similarly the hihats became straight on the beat without much variation.
Overall it looks as though had a quite a bit of variation for the first three incarnations and eventually settled down to:
The simple kick 1 snare 3 drum pattern, with simple hihats.
A reggae style skank, with a simple melody that followed the skank.
The bass also followed the chords and melody
We should do it again sometime!
A really good project. Well done chaps
Found the whole thing really interesting, strange to see what people really focused on and then brought out in their tunes. For me almost the focus was the bass driving the song. When I listened to Grooki's again after finishing my version, I realised that the lead was more important really, and I didn't spend much time on recreating the sound which I should have.
I'm definitely done for another one of these or any different permutations of it.
Yeah for that reason be good to keep it to 6 or 7 each time I think. Also I'm sure experience and time have an impact on how true the imitation is.grooki wrote:it would be good if we did a couple more at some point to see any trends that happen, I suspect as you said Green Plan the complexity goes down to a certain point where it's easy to recreate, and it probably won't get simpler from that point onwards
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