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how to avoid muddy basslines

Post by bayda » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:16 pm

i've noticed lately that most of my basses in massive and albino seem to sound muddy and lack the high frequencies that a lot of basslines have to make it sound full. i understood recently that theres only so much you can do in a vst in terms of changing the noise and the rest of the modification has to be done in a sample editor or DAW or something to put the finishing touches on the sound so should i try and add these extra harmonics/highs in Ableton or something? or should I try and get this issue of lacking highs taken care of in the vst? ive had a little success trying both methods but i just want to see what people have to say, thanks!

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Re: how to avoid muddy basslines

Post by press » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:57 pm

distortion/saturation, raise your lp cuttoff.
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Re: how to avoid muddy basslines

Post by Airgonaut » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:07 pm

At the risk of sounding like a complete noob, what about splitting the frequencies and boosting/distorting/saturating the highs so they're more noticeable? That could possibly work.
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Re: how to avoid muddy basslines

Post by Comfi » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:08 pm

You could also try frequency splitting, there's a thread around here which explains how to go about it. A bit of distortion on the highs pairs with a small light reverb tends to bring out the his nicely.
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Re: how to avoid muddy basslines

Post by bayda » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:11 pm

thanks everyone! ive tried eqing the highs out but i never thought to distort or saturate the highs, i'll try that

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Re: how to avoid muddy basslines

Post by blinx » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:43 pm

I have started to use Ozone 4's Multiband dynamics to help "mold" my basses and shape there sound.
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Re: how to avoid muddy basslines

Post by RandoRando » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:46 pm

Airgonaut wrote:At the risk of sounding like a complete noob, what about splitting the frequencies and boosting/distorting/saturating the highs so they're more noticeable? That could possibly work.
good idea, but you broke rule number 17. Dont boost the Highs, turn down the lows.
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Re: how to avoid muddy basslines

Post by hasezwei » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:49 pm

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Re: how to avoid muddy basslines

Post by amphibian » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:23 am

muddiness happens because you have a lot of emphasis in the mids between 400hz and 600hz. Having a moderate dip there using eq will really clean up the sound.
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Re: how to avoid muddy basslines

Post by JFK » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:03 am

amphibian wrote:muddiness happens because you have a lot of emphasis in the mids between 400hz and 600hz. Having a moderate dip there using eq will really clean up the sound.
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