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Postby Lichee » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:23 pm

bassinine wrote:
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bassinine wrote:uh, it's impossible to say whether or not YOU will produce better if you're high, but probably not.

usually i tend to get a lot more done much faster when i'm not high (which is not very often), but i tend to experiment and stray from my standard procedure when i am.

anyways, if you never smoke - you seriously won't get shit done. it's usually people that are used to being high most of the time that tend to work better when stoned.


don't you find that idea kind of sad, being stoned so often that you just get used to it?


i mean, have you ever met a stoner before? it's only sad if it negatively effects one's day to day life, or the people around them.

personally, i'm a stoner, and have been for years. only recently have i begun to cut back, and wait until at least 5pm every day to smoke. i got through a four year university being high basically 100% of the time, even at all my classes. not saying it's a good thing, just saying there's much worse stuff to form habits with. like drinking, or smoking cigs.

on that note, by USED TO IT, i mean, you don't act obviously high, goofy, stupid, etc.


This is kind of what I meant, like surely you don't feel proper stoned anymore without having to smoke an expensive amount. The majority of my friendship group smoke everyday, a girl I know smoked an eighth to herself in 4 hours and made herself wighty and it's kind of depressing when she doesn't really go out anymore because she's so butted all the time. And come on dude you can't say somethings ok because it's not as bad for you as being an alcoholic and smoking a spliff (I assume you smoke spliffs and not blunts/vape or bong) has baccy in it so it's still smoking.

The thing is could you voluntarily stop smoking weed for a fortnight or so to prove to yourself that you can, like obviously I doubt you want to but could you?
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Postby SunkLo » Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:49 am

I've done those two week dry bets before just to prove to people that I can. Honestly not that hard, unless you're around it a bunch or are thinking about it. At the end of the two weeks your tolerance is back down again so it like when you were 14. There's a psychological tolerance that never goes away which just means you don't freak out or act like a tool.
Tolerance breaks are the name of the game.

As for producing, it helps your inspiration and creative drive. Good for detailing a track.
The more you burn and produce the better you get at staying focused. It's like having to re-learn how to skateboard or play guitar drunk, just takes some extra practice.
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Postby wormcode » Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:58 am

I haven't smoked in about 6 weeks or so. Smoked pretty much every day or every other day for the last year, but I take breaks like that every once in a while. The hardest thing to me is missing the habit of inhaling smoke really, the hand the mouth movements, and the ritual associated with smoking... not the high. Obviously if someone buns grams a day and ounces a month, it will be harder psychologically and there could be light physical withdrawal, but it's not the same league as nicotine or heroin withdrawal. It's mostly things like not being able to sleep well for a few nights, or having a shorter temper.

I never noticed it affect making music or anything, besides the "sure would be nice if I were high right now" thing. People are different though. Refer to Half-Baked: "You ever suck some dick for marijuana?"
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Postby bassinine » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:53 pm

Lichee wrote:
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Lichee wrote:
bassinine wrote:uh, it's impossible to say whether or not YOU will produce better if you're high, but probably not.

usually i tend to get a lot more done much faster when i'm not high (which is not very often), but i tend to experiment and stray from my standard procedure when i am.

anyways, if you never smoke - you seriously won't get shit done. it's usually people that are used to being high most of the time that tend to work better when stoned.


don't you find that idea kind of sad, being stoned so often that you just get used to it?


i mean, have you ever met a stoner before? it's only sad if it negatively effects one's day to day life, or the people around them.

personally, i'm a stoner, and have been for years. only recently have i begun to cut back, and wait until at least 5pm every day to smoke. i got through a four year university being high basically 100% of the time, even at all my classes. not saying it's a good thing, just saying there's much worse stuff to form habits with. like drinking, or smoking cigs.

on that note, by USED TO IT, i mean, you don't act obviously high, goofy, stupid, etc.


This is kind of what I meant, like surely you don't feel proper stoned anymore without having to smoke an expensive amount. The majority of my friendship group smoke everyday, a girl I know smoked an eighth to herself in 4 hours and made herself wighty and it's kind of depressing when she doesn't really go out anymore because she's so butted all the time. And come on dude you can't say somethings ok because it's not as bad for you as being an alcoholic and smoking a spliff (I assume you smoke spliffs and not blunts/vape or bong) has baccy in it so it's still smoking.

The thing is could you voluntarily stop smoking weed for a fortnight or so to prove to yourself that you can, like obviously I doubt you want to but could you?


i really never said it was "ok," i know that ANY habitual behavior is bad for you. i was just saying it didn't prevent me from graduating from virginia tech. and on that note, i use a gravity bong exclusively. and lately, i've been waiting until 5pm or after before i smoke.. that way one gravity does get me proper stoned. but it's really nice getting off work 9-5, then going home to blaze and produce til 1am, then skyrim until i fall asleep.

and i've quit for a few months before, it's really not that hard. it just makes it hard to get good sleep in, and obviously, i don't eat as much (i'm skinny enough as it is).

i know i'm addicted and that it would be better for me to quit, it would just give me more energy and save money - and allow me to get super-high when i actually do smoke again. but, there are plenty of hard-working professionals (with masters) that get high every night when they get off work. it's really about the user, some people can function - some can't.
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Postby SunkLo » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:12 pm

bassinine wrote:i know that ANY habitual behavior is bad for you.

This is fantastically false. We are creatures of habit. The only way things ever get done is due to habit. If your brain had to strategize about every single action in a day you'd still be formulating a plan on how to get out of bed. The ability of the brain to repeat past actions habitually is what fuels anything from learning a new skill to maintaining a job to social interaction to achieving success in anything really. Think about how you learned to do multiplication or play an instrument. Your formulation of habits largely affects where you're going in the world and what you're capable of.

It's seen as a disgrace when someone is dependant on something, be it a substance, entertainment, social gratification, attention, money, etc. Yet everything we've built would not have been possible without our dependence on routine and habits that produce a positive outcome.

The difference between a positive and negative habit is whether you interpret the trade-off to be worth it.
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Postby oWLinDaylight » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:31 pm

And any physical or psychological negatives from a marijuana habit go away once you stop using, unlike having an alcohol, tobacco, or hard drug habit
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Postby DrSpliff » Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:58 am

I just ended a 1 week toke break after about 4 years of heavy use and the past year waking up and possibly not even having 3 minutes of soberness per day. As I woke up I'd start smoking until 2 or 3 am the next day. Nobody ever do this, you stop living in reality. Going to smoke once per week now. Tolerance went down a bit during ther week, but nothing like the 3 month toke break I took a few years back. If you plan on stopping smoking weed, suggest you go to your doctor for a script of strong sleeping pills... If your a heavy smoker. Except 30 second to 5 minute periods of reeeally wanting to blaze. Just get through it, youl get them a couple times a day. Its just because your not following your usual habit and your brain is suuuper puzzled on what to do. After 3 days its eeeeasy!
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Postby tavravlavish » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:47 am

Khazm wrote:I've never smoked weed in my life, I don't plan too either. So I guess I'll never know :D

Bummer dude!
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Postby Dystinkt » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:56 am

It seems that in this game, a really high proportion of people are stoners. would anyone agree/disagree and why?
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Postby Kingofstreet » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:20 am

For me its a little odd.. since I write both dubstep and rock songs for my band, I've come to a place that when i'm stoned - writing melodies and new song parts and breaks and all that comes easy.. but creating new sounds and synths or messing around with the actual sound of thing does seem like a greater challange most of the time.. you DO NOT want to be stoned trying to set the exact knee and ratio of a bass drum comp.. it will take hours..
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Postby bassinine » Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:58 pm

SunkLo wrote:
bassinine wrote:i know that ANY habitual behavior is bad for you.

This is fantastically false. We are creatures of habit. The only way things ever get done is due to habit. If your brain had to strategize about every single action in a day you'd still be formulating a plan on how to get out of bed. The ability of the brain to repeat past actions habitually is what fuels anything from learning a new skill to maintaining a job to social interaction to achieving success in anything really. Think about how you learned to do multiplication or play an instrument. Your formulation of habits largely affects where you're going in the world and what you're capable of.

It's seen as a disgrace when someone is dependant on something, be it a substance, entertainment, social gratification, attention, money, etc. Yet everything we've built would not have been possible without our dependence on routine and habits that produce a positive outcome.

The difference between a positive and negative habit is whether you interpret the trade-off to be worth it.


sure, some habits are beneficial. but, if one cannot stop when necessary, then it's not a good thing. just saying all habits, whether good or bad, should be learned to control.

and yeah, a lot of producers are stoners. i think this is because weed calls out to certain personality types - mainly artistic personality types. therefore, one that likes music/art will generally like weed, and vice versa.
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Postby -[2]DAY_- » Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:52 pm

every time i see this thread title in active topics, it makes me chuckle. Just makes me wanna say to the OP "Yep! True as day"
even tho it isn't necessarily true, thread title makes me lol.

slightly OT, i've been thinking lately about what would happen if the USA really cracked down on cannabis, and how its a lot like good beer and how my dad would probably leave the country if they outlawed having a beer. So i decided if i couldn't get high anymore, then i'd leave the country. its just cultural preference. I'm not a drinker, I'm a cannabis user. n yeah a lot of artsy types dip on the side of cannabis as it helps creativity, and bc of the rebellious nature of it in the midst of prohibition. anyway at least we're not all hooked on crack rocks. And god knows smoking weed every day is one thing but popping MDMA every day would destroy you
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Postby wormcode » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:57 pm

Cheeky wrote:It seems that in this game, a really high proportion of people are stoners. would anyone agree/disagree and why?

Stoner is a tricky term. As for people who smoke cannabis, I kind of agree... but I think people are just more open about it in music scenes, since it's almost expected. Professionals like lawyers, professors, architects etc blaze too, just on the down low usually, and not as often as they'd like because of drugs testing. When JWH was at its most popular, my dad was buying it up because they test at his job, engineering type job. He wasn't the only one either, a few people were. Shame really because most of the hard dangerous drugs are out of your system in under a week, usually a couple of days, so it's mostly useless unless someone is shooting up heroin at work.
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Postby -[2]DAY_- » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:06 pm

yeah i always thought it unfair that you can piss out an oxycontin in 3 days, but if you smoked a bud two months ago you're at risk of failing drug tests.
we really need to catch up on drug policy in general though, MJ prohibition is a disgrace . especially religious types, i mean for something that grows green out of the dirt, is highly referenced in the bible, pretty much known to be a sacred herb... kinda hypocritical to let your weird social conservatism trump God's will.
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Postby oWLinDaylight » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:12 pm

-[2]DAY_- wrote:yeah i always thought it unfair that you can piss out an oxycontin in 3 days, but if you smoked a bud two months ago you're at risk of failing drug tests.
we really need to catch up on drug policy in general though, MJ prohibition is a disgrace . especially religious types, i mean for something that grows green out of the dirt, is highly referenced in the bible, pretty much known to be a sacred herb... kinda hypocritical to let your weird social conservatism trump God's will.


You didn't read the part where god says: "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. Except for that one, you cant have that one"
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Postby Danimal » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:37 pm

Cheeky wrote:It seems that in this game, a really high proportion of people are stoners. would anyone agree/disagree and why?


It's not just in this game. When I played in bands, it was still a pretty popular thing. Still, a much higher amount of producers tend to smoke. I myself have produced more when high than sober. I think it allows for more time to be put into a track. I don't enjoy staring at a computer for hours and hours as much when I'm sober. But that being said, sometimes I have trouble making something sound so musically pleasing when I'm high. It's happened where I lose control of a track completely and can't revert back too much without starting something completely new. This being said, a nice medium between the two has worked best for me. I'll go a couple sessions with smoke, a couple sessions without... These tracks tend to come out with high quality and creativity.
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Postby accordionfan » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:20 pm

fuck weed im banging k all while i produce
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Postby accordionfan » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:21 pm

unfortunately this causes me to stare blankly and drool all over my keyboardf
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Postby AxeD » Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:54 am

samdam1 wrote:
RandoRando wrote:ideas flow alot easier, but make sure you write everything down in your daw the second you think of it.

or youll be like me and when you planned on making a whole track in a 2 hour time span, youll spend that time EQing a kick drum for 4 hours.



Ahh ok. Well, when yes i can imagine people having problems with that! XD Do you find that when you wake up the next day to listen to it, when ur fine, are you amazed at how it sounds?


Most of the time, one would be amazed at how awfull it sounds :lol:
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Postby Undrig » Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:44 am

It needs to be hardware for me. I need to twiddle some knobs if i'm baked. Not staring at some screen clicking away.
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