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Re: Gear lust

Post by fragments » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:57 am

nowaysj wrote:I think it is shipping already, dude.
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almost hit the mark

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Re: Gear lust

Post by nowaysj » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:04 am

Dude, as always, imo, that is too much. Fricken fracken rabbit. I'm calling it: DOA.

That's too much, by multiples.

Damn.
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Re: Gear lust

Post by wolf89 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:16 am

mks wrote:The SQ-1 looks cool, like a little Volca sequencer. But why just have one cv sequencer when you could have two cv sequencers, plus 8 channels of cv drum gates plus MIDI?
Actually the SQ-1 does quite a lot. Most importantly though it's able to do the right CV for Korg MS20s

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Re: Gear lust

Post by fragments » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:37 am

nowaysj wrote:Dude, as always, imo, that is too much. Fricken fracken rabbit. I'm calling it: DOA.

That's too much, by multiples.

Damn.
Is 1500 a lot for a good guitar?

Edit: Honest question. I have no idea. But seems the closest reasonable comparison?

Edit Edit: I tend to agree, but its a niche item in for a niche market made by a "boutique" manufacturer. I'm sure Korg or Roland would buy the patent. Ruin it. And sell it for 750. ???

Dunno. I dunno what to think these days. There is so much cool shit that is marginally overpriced IMO...yet the big boys are mostly making cheap crap. Not many seem to be striking quality, options and price point very accurately. Maybe the modular world is doing it best these days.
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Re: Gear lust

Post by nowaysj » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:51 am

Guitars equate more closely with synths, imo, as they are sound sources. This is a freaking $1500 midi controller.

But damn... music theory makes so much more sense on a bass/guitar neck. Patterns are just patterns, a minor third is always a minor third, and you change root note... I've always been mind fucked by the piano keyboard, like counting up then down from white to black different shapes for each chord in each key...

I wish there were no black keys... that'd be awesome, then a pattern would be a pattern, a minor third would always be a minor third, same shape, same distance... But then, even then... creating vibrato... I've never used aftertouch dudes, it just feels unnatural, I don't know if it is my history with the bass, but it just feels so natural to wobble back and forth to produce vibrato, not pressing down and lifting up repeatedly...

It is times like these I turn to my German brothers, and hope for a Behringer knock off at 1/10th the price.
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Re: Gear lust

Post by fragments » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:02 am

Ok. That's kinda fair. I can respect the "guitar is the sound source" opinion. I'd be curious to know what it costs them to make one of these...because honestly I can't imagine the R&D on this cost an outrageous amount. Between the announcement and release...less than a year...? It is a great idea, but implementing it using MIDI...meh...a touch surface...meh...using Adrino...meh...I'm sure the idea of something like this wasn't even novel among us...it just needed someone with a name and money...so I'm like...so with you yet...

But you really think 150 dollars is appropriate for something like this? A 1/10th?

The more I think about it, I the more I tend to agree. They'd probably make as much money at the 1,500 dollar price point as 150. I'd buy one for 150. I'll never buy a used one if the street price new is 1,500.

I'm still hoping Berhinger does the reveal on their poly analog at MusikMesse ...
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Re: Gear lust

Post by nowaysj » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:18 am

I think they will. I've got no connects, but with their silly leaked video teaser, I think they're ready to at least show it.

Parva started taking kick starter orders today. That is big news dude. That is a pretty speced out 8 voice analog poly for a grand.

Please, can we have a few more years of stability to see more of this. I want more POLY!

Dude, been listening to more prophet 6 demo, damn dude, you've got to know this is my sound. A few years ago, well many now, I guess, I had a business, I banked $36k in a few months, above living expenses, and operating costs/reinvestment for the biz. I would so totally spend every last penny of that now, and just set up my studio the way I wanted. Simply, with just a few really choice sound sources, sound processors, sound mixer and tape recorder. Oh woe is me :)
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Re: Gear lust

Post by mks » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:23 am

wolf89 wrote:
mks wrote:The SQ-1 looks cool, like a little Volca sequencer. But why just have one cv sequencer when you could have two cv sequencers, plus 8 channels of cv drum gates plus MIDI?
Actually the SQ-1 does quite a lot. Most importantly though it's able to do the right CV for Korg MS20s

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2015/02/h ... -can-cant/
Tbh, I still want one of these. And I am planning on getting a MS-20mini at some point.

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Re: Gear lust

Post by wolf89 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:32 pm

I've got an original MS 20 so it's exactly what I need to be honest. The local store here that sells synths, controllers and effects and shit sold out of their initial stock of them in like a day and the dude who owns the store won't stop going on about how great they are
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Re: Gear lust

Post by hubb » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:09 pm

mks wrote:
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mks wrote:The SQ-1 looks cool, like a little Volca sequencer. But why just have one cv sequencer when you could have two cv sequencers, plus 8 channels of cv drum gates plus MIDI?
Actually the SQ-1 does quite a lot. Most importantly though it's able to do the right CV for Korg MS20s

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2015/02/h ... -can-cant/
Tbh, I still want one of these. And I am planning on getting a MS-20mini at some point.
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Re: Gear lust

Post by nowaysj » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:02 pm

5. Scales are limited to C Major and C minor; you can’t change root or transpose. Chris correctly points out that this is fairly limiting. You can’t change the root note. The KORG engineer who designed the SQ-1′s functionality here told us somewhat apologetically that he had only two buttons for selection, though, so he didn’t have much choice. This sounds like a deal killer, maybe, but it isn’t – provided your outboard gear has a transposition function. If it does, you can transpose on the synth rather than the SQ-1. And if you want more scales, you may want to consider a more advanced sequencer – or software.
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Re: Gear lust

Post by hubb » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:09 pm

yeah
and what i do is: instead of changing the notes afterwards to get them properly in tune
I just record a test of the setting ive made and note via melodyne where for example the A is at atm (via the test sampled getting interpreted)

it's not really ever in proper tune when there's a pitch dial with no individual increments - so I dont completely understand the critique.. it's probably inevitable in such a set up, no?
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Re: Gear lust

Post by nowaysj » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:12 pm

You're using it with an SQ-1?
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Re: Gear lust

Post by hubb » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:16 pm

no just cutting bits up in logic
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Re: Gear lust

Post by nowaysj » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:34 pm

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Re: Gear lust

Post by mks » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:09 am

I got the Gakken. It's crackin'!

This is a good sounding analog synth for $21. In fact, I'm shocked at how good it sounds. You guys should get one. Super fun!

First thing I did was plug it into my little keyboard amp. Then I opened the unit to look at the circuit board. I don't know enough about circuit bending yet, but for such a cheap synth I wouldn't be too concerned if I decide to try.

The pen/touchstrip is so very expressive.

I then plugged it into my Boss RPD-10 digital delay and that really just opened things up.

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Not bad for a toy analog synth. I don't know if I can call it a toy or not. It's built like a toy, but it does not sound like one.

On that matrixsynth link that I linked previously, it said this was designed by an experienced analog synthesizer designer. It actually does sound like it despite how cheaply built it is. Designed in Japan, made in China.

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Re: Gear lust

Post by nowaysj » Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:19 am

mks wrote:I then plugged it into my Boss RPD-10 digital delay and that really just opened things up.

:W:


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Re: Gear lust

Post by hubb » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:08 pm

going on a circuit bender should be a thing we all did
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Re: Gear lust

Post by mks » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:43 pm

I ordered a second Gakken. One that I won't feel bad about destroying when I decide to circuit bend / modify it. I need to get a cv/gate on there.

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Re: Gear lust

Post by nowaysj » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:54 pm

What you need to get is a screw gun and attach various lengths of semi-rigid wire (like guitar strings, they are conductive, are they not?) to the screw bit, connect the screw bit to the Gakken pen, and slowly pull the trigger of the screw gun, allowing the semi-rigid wires to brush and slide against various points on the ribbon, creating rhythmic and subtly unpredictable tonal loops. :)

Or not, already sounds so good in my head. :lol:
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