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so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by soronery » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:52 am

all the pomp and ceremony about it's launch then hardly seen a whisper since. did it fall flat?
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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by Genevieve » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:56 am

What are you expecting tbh? We only hear about the major DAWs when there's a major update coming.

I think they seriously messed up their own launch, though. I think they would have benefited from releasing a less expansive but still solid product sooner, way before Ableton 9 was released. By the time Bitwig was released, a lot of the hype died down and people went from Ableton 8 tot 9, so Bitwig didn't have much going anymore.
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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by AxeD » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:34 am

He died I think.
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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by __________ » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:32 am

Don't lose faith.

I've not tried it out yet, I'm waiting for all the features to be filled in, but come on...even if it flops, some of the features will hopefully be replicated by other DAW developers. Logic, FL, Ableton, Cubase, etc have all stagnated a bit in my opinion. We need something like Bitwig to give everyone a kick up the ass.

Native Linux support and network sync are the big ones in my opinion. Being able to collaborate on a project with someone on the other side of the world in real-time should be a complete game-changer. Linux is the way forward for desktops...Steam is already working hard to make gaming viable on the platform and if Bitwig does well then we are all one step closer to having a free, fully featured, open-source operating system.

I don't know how it's all going to pan out yet but I think Bitwig's potentially a significant part of the bigger picture. Give it time.

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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by zosomagik » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:02 pm

I like Bitwig, but I thought it was going to a little more like Ableton's workflow because everyone talking about it made it seem that way. But it's not the same to me besides the way the plugins look and where they go, and the clip launching thing.

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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by nowaysj » Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:14 pm

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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by GV1 » Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:03 pm

I never understood all the hype over Bitwig. Wasn't it just an Ableton clone with a fresh user interface? Since switching to Live 9 I don't look back, I'm not sure how a DAW expects to come onto the market and take Ableton's place. Especially since Ableton have nice controllers, lots of max content, a great API for coding your own stuff.
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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by In_Real_Life » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:04 pm

Lol I actually hated it when I first tryed it out around when it was first release and hated it. I've been using it in my recent productions for almost everything and love it now. Gui was weird. I expected it to be more like ableton but its really its own thing.
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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by nowaysj » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:05 pm

You have any example tracks?
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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by In_Real_Life » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:07 pm

The way bitwig handles plugins is worlds ahead of ableton imo.
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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by nowaysj » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:12 pm

Like external plugins?
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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by In_Real_Life » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:16 pm

yes, I can handle way more plugins now. Delay playing my drum pad for example is way better now as well. you also get a visual display for delay per track, including the master. I usually have about 56 ms on master with a full production.
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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by VirtualMark » Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:53 pm

We're currently waiting on the 1.1 patch, which will add midi routing, proper sidechaining and a ton of other features. It's taking a while, but they said it should be within the next month.

So far it's pretty impressive, it has a ton of features that aren't available elsewhere and works nicely. But it's only a 1.0 release and is still lacking some functionality. Hopefully the patches will fix that soon. 1.2 should add group/folder tracks, that's about all they've announced so far.

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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by VirtualMark » Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:55 pm

In_Real_Life wrote:The way bitwig handles plugins is worlds ahead of ableton imo.
+1.

The VST sandboxing is a great feature, it stops a bad plugin from crashing your project. I no longer have to remember to save every few minutes like I did in Cubase.

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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by In_Real_Life » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:20 pm

Group your tracks by sending things to return tracks.
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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by outbound » Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:29 am

It was a life lived too short :(

Seriously though if they get some decent updates and keep innovating they can still earn further respect and keep momentum going :)
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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by cyclopian » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:58 pm

We all have to remember that when Live came out, it didnt even have MIDI. Bitwig's still got some time. (Although the market is much more saturated now then when Live came out in 2001)
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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by nowaysj » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:29 am

Does live even have midi now?

Like, barely.
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Re: so what happened with bitwig then?

Post by Simulant » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:31 am

cyclopian wrote:Although the market is much more saturated now
Is it though? What new DAWs have come out since Live?

If anything, with the rising popularity of electronic music, I'd say that it's a great time to enter the market.

And it was already saturated when Live came out, but they had a unique product and Ableton is now a huge success. So I'd say that there's always room for a good product.
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